ATL: PALOMA - Recon Discussion

[bvigal]

plane enroute, post comments here

[cycloneye]

That smfr 50kt is not flagged so is legit.

http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/URNT15/KNHC/

[CrazyC83]

I haven't seen any other high numbers so it may not be representative of the intensity.

[Dave]

I double checked that 50 kt sfmr before posting it, wanted to make sure no flags were on it.

[wxman57]

I double checked that 50 kt sfmr before posting it, wanted to make sure no flags were on it.

Considering it's double the FL winds, I'd say it's quite suspicious. We have quite a few real-live surface obs around the low and all are in the 15-25 kt range.

Have you also noticed that SFMR winds this year are almost always a good bit higher than FL winds? I think they need to do a good bit more calibration on those instruments. Will be interesting to query the presenters at next spring's hurricane conferences about these data.

[Dave]

"Have you also noticed that SFMR winds this year are almost always a good bit higher than FL winds?"

I've seen that every recon mission I've worked. Sure looks like the calibration needs more work.

[cycloneye]

48kt smfr is legit,but I suscribe the above comments.

[wxman57]

48kt sfmr is legit,but I subscribe the above comments.

The observation appears to have been in an area of heavy squalls north of the center, but FL winds were only 22 kts. I know when the presenters at last year's AMS tropical conference talked about calibrating the SFMR they flew over buoys with known wind speeds only on days with no rain. Maybe the rain is interfering with the signal?

[pojo]

48kt sfmr is legit,but I subscribe the above comments.

The observation appears to have been in an area of heavy squalls north of the center, but FL winds were only 22 kts. I know when the presenters at last year's AMS tropical conference talked about calibrating the SFMR they flew over buoys with known wind speeds only on days with no rain. Maybe the rain is interfering with the signal?

we don't fly calibration flights during the day.

[MiamiensisWx]

When will the next mission depart?

[Dave]

AF301 enroute now

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=103813&p=1846693#p1846693

[cycloneye]

Lets see how strong this mission finds Paloma.Plane decends.

[HURAKAN]

I think it will find a stronger Paloma.

[Dave]

I'm holding back some on the graphics because of the people still on dialup. A page with too many pics becomes hard for them to download. I'm going for center fixes mainly.

[Just Joshing You]

What do mesovortices in an eyewall look like on radar?

[Lowpressure]

What do mesovortices in an eyewall look like on radar?

I was thinking the same thing- sounds like a POJO question.

[Just Joshing You]

I sent Pojo a PM

[sevenleft]

These are mesovortices rotating around inside the eye of Hurricane Ike, as it was making landfall in Galveston.

[cycloneye]

Our friend ai9d has to go soon so who wants to continue posting the NOAA3 obs? I will take the Air Force ones for a while.

[cycloneye]

Link to NOAA3 obs.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/URNT15-NOAA.shtml?