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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
DW Hooks
60º to 42ºF in 3 hours.
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Latest 10 AM (15) Dec 15 42.1 (5.6) 41.0 (5.0) 30.2 (1022) NNW 14 mist
9 AM (14) Dec 15 46.0 (7.8) 45.0 (7.2) 30.14 (1020) NW 15 light rain; mist
8 AM (13) Dec 15 57 (14) 57 (14) 30.09 (1018) NW 15 mist
7 AM (12) Dec 15 60 (16) 60 (16) 30.06 (1017) SE 3 fog
60º to 42ºF in 3 hours.
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If the temp just stays steady 3 more hours, which seems possible, the 12Z NAM raw numbers from my pay-per-view AccuWx site would bust by over 3ºC at DW Hooks.
Will that 3ºC error pattern hold over???- Could be the difference between a normal commute, and maybe schools and work starting 2 or 3 hours late!
Will that 3ºC error pattern hold over???- Could be the difference between a normal commute, and maybe schools and work starting 2 or 3 hours late!
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7A DEC15
SFC 850 SFC SFC 700 6/12 500 1000
TMP TMP PRS RHU RHU HR HGT 500
(C) (C) (MB) (PCT) (PCT) (IN) (DM) THK
MON 7A 15-DEC 15.9 10.5 1018 92 11 580 565
MON 1P 15-DEC 8.3 11.1 1024 75 38 0.02 583 564
MON 7P 15-DEC 5.8 11.8 1024 81 35 0.04 582 563
TUE 1A 16-DEC 3.5 12.0 1025 88 31 0.02 584 564
TUE 7A 16-DEC 2.2 12.2 1023 91 48 0.03 583 565
TUE 1P 16-DEC 3.8 12.6 1023 85 49 0.01 584 566
TUE 7P 16-DEC 4.5 12.6 1020 89 51 0.03 583 568
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Ed Mahmoud wrote:If the temp just stays steady 3 more hours, which seems possible, the 12Z NAM raw numbers from my pay-per-view AccuWx site would bust by over 3ºC at DW Hooks.
Will that 3ºC error pattern hold over???- Could be the difference between a normal commute, and maybe schools and work starting 2 or 3 hours late!Code: Select all
7A DEC15
SFC 850 SFC SFC 700 6/12 500 1000
TMP TMP PRS RHU RHU HR HGT 500
(C) (C) (MB) (PCT) (PCT) (IN) (DM) THK
MON 7A 15-DEC 15.9 10.5 1018 92 11 580 565
MON 1P 15-DEC 8.3 11.1 1024 75 38 0.02 583 564
MON 7P 15-DEC 5.8 11.8 1024 81 35 0.04 582 563
TUE 1A 16-DEC 3.5 12.0 1025 88 31 0.02 584 564
TUE 7A 16-DEC 2.2 12.2 1023 91 48 0.03 583 565
TUE 1P 16-DEC 3.8 12.6 1023 85 49 0.01 584 566
TUE 7P 16-DEC 4.5 12.6 1020 89 51 0.03 583 568
Based on how the models have been busting up here in Oklahoma, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Extremeweatherguy wrote:Ed Mahmoud wrote:If the temp just stays steady 3 more hours, which seems possible, the 12Z NAM raw numbers from my pay-per-view AccuWx site would bust by over 3ºC at DW Hooks.
Will that 3ºC error pattern hold over???- Could be the difference between a normal commute, and maybe schools and work starting 2 or 3 hours late!Code: Select all
7A DEC15
SFC 850 SFC SFC 700 6/12 500 1000
TMP TMP PRS RHU RHU HR HGT 500
(C) (C) (MB) (PCT) (PCT) (IN) (DM) THK
MON 7A 15-DEC 15.9 10.5 1018 92 11 580 565
MON 1P 15-DEC 8.3 11.1 1024 75 38 0.02 583 564
MON 7P 15-DEC 5.8 11.8 1024 81 35 0.04 582 563
TUE 1A 16-DEC 3.5 12.0 1025 88 31 0.02 584 564
TUE 7A 16-DEC 2.2 12.2 1023 91 48 0.03 583 565
TUE 1P 16-DEC 3.8 12.6 1023 85 49 0.01 584 566
TUE 7P 16-DEC 4.5 12.6 1020 89 51 0.03 583 568
Based on how the models have been busting up here in Oklahoma, it wouldn't surprise me.
18Z, not 12Z, but you get the idea...
Re-read original post, it was ok.
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
At 9 AM
69 in Corpus
43 in Victoria
This front means business. Big busts accross the state in progress. Live by the GFS, die by the GFS.
69 in Corpus
43 in Victoria
This front means business. Big busts accross the state in progress. Live by the GFS, die by the GFS.
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Today: A 30 percent chance of showers. Cloudy, with a temperature falling to around 43 by 5pm. North wind around 15 mph.
Umm it is 44 now. Busting the bad boys of model huggin .
Umm it is 44 now. Busting the bad boys of model huggin .

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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Front coming thru NW Corpus right now. Should be interesting to see how fast the temps fall.
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Yeah, NWS called for a low of 35 here last night. It was 26 when I woke up. 

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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Cold air is awfully shallow, maybe 2000 feet or so per 6 am Fort Worth sounding


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12Z GFS 18Z temp for Hooks is 7.1C, with an overnight low of 6ºC, and 0.09 inches of precip overnight.
It is 5ºC now, assuming temps stay constant, about a 2 degree error. It is not really rigorous to extrapolate that 2º error to tomorrow morning, but if we did, temps still above freezing.
No delayed start to school.
Not 18Z yet at Dallas, looks like error there will be about 3º, well behind the front. But even a 3º correction would not produce freezing drizzle.
Semi-unscientifically, I can say I doubt there will be freezing drizzle and extra sleep tomorrow morning, but I remain a glass half full kind of optimist.
WRF does show freezing drizzle for DFW, however. GFS is cold enough, but has no measurable precip until after the AM rush has started, 0.02 between 6 am and noon.
WRF's freezing drizzle is 0.12 inches (maybe even light freezing rain) before the morning commute, which might delay school openings.
But I think HOU area students need to go to bed on time tonight.
It is 5ºC now, assuming temps stay constant, about a 2 degree error. It is not really rigorous to extrapolate that 2º error to tomorrow morning, but if we did, temps still above freezing.
No delayed start to school.
Not 18Z yet at Dallas, looks like error there will be about 3º, well behind the front. But even a 3º correction would not produce freezing drizzle.
Semi-unscientifically, I can say I doubt there will be freezing drizzle and extra sleep tomorrow morning, but I remain a glass half full kind of optimist.
WRF does show freezing drizzle for DFW, however. GFS is cold enough, but has no measurable precip until after the AM rush has started, 0.02 between 6 am and noon.
WRF's freezing drizzle is 0.12 inches (maybe even light freezing rain) before the morning commute, which might delay school openings.
But I think HOU area students need to go to bed on time tonight.
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Updated Austin forecast with mention of Freezing Rain tonight and tomorrow morning.
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Austin&state=TX&site=EWX&textField1=30.267&textField2=-97.743
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Austin&state=TX&site=EWX&textField1=30.267&textField2=-97.743
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
Fort Worth Special Weather Statement
109 PM CST MON DEC 15 2008
...PATCHY...VERY LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE...FREEZING RAIN...OR SLEET
POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING...
MOISTURE CONTINUES TO OVERRUN THE SHALLOW ARCTIC AIR ACROSS MAINLY THOSE
PARTS OF NORTH TEXAS ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 35. VERY SPOTTY...LIGHT
FREEZING DRIZZLE OR FREEZING RAIN HAS OCCURRED...BUT NO ACCUMULATION
HAS OCCURRED ON AREA ROADWAYS...THUS TRAVEL PROBLEMS ARE NOT EXPECTED
THROUGH TONIGHT...THOUGH LOCALIZED ICING ON BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES ARE
POSSIBLE...SINCE THESE SURFACES ARE ELEVATED AND NOT WARMED BY THE GROUND
FROM THE RECENT WARM WEATHER THIS PAST WEEKEND.
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CONTINUES TO MONITOR TRENDS REGARDING VERY
LIGHT FREEZING PRECIPITATION THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING CLOSELY WITH REGARDS
TO ANY FUTURE ADVISORIES...IF NEEDED.
109 PM CST MON DEC 15 2008
...PATCHY...VERY LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE...FREEZING RAIN...OR SLEET
POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING...
MOISTURE CONTINUES TO OVERRUN THE SHALLOW ARCTIC AIR ACROSS MAINLY THOSE
PARTS OF NORTH TEXAS ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 35. VERY SPOTTY...LIGHT
FREEZING DRIZZLE OR FREEZING RAIN HAS OCCURRED...BUT NO ACCUMULATION
HAS OCCURRED ON AREA ROADWAYS...THUS TRAVEL PROBLEMS ARE NOT EXPECTED
THROUGH TONIGHT...THOUGH LOCALIZED ICING ON BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES ARE
POSSIBLE...SINCE THESE SURFACES ARE ELEVATED AND NOT WARMED BY THE GROUND
FROM THE RECENT WARM WEATHER THIS PAST WEEKEND.
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CONTINUES TO MONITOR TRENDS REGARDING VERY
LIGHT FREEZING PRECIPITATION THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING CLOSELY WITH REGARDS
TO ANY FUTURE ADVISORIES...IF NEEDED.
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SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
544 PM CST MON DEC 15 2008
TXZ091>095-100>107-115>123-129>135-141>148-156>162-174-175-160145-
ANDERSON-BELL-BOSQUE-COLLIN-COMANCHE-COOKE-CORYELL-DALLAS-DELTA-
DENTON-EASTLAND-ELLIS-ERATH-FALLS-FANNIN-FREESTONE-GRAYSON-HAMILTON-
HENDERSON-HILL-HOOD-HOPKINS-HUNT-JACK-JOHNSON-KAUFMAN-LAMAR-LAMPASAS-
LEON-LIMESTONE-MCLENNAN-MILAM-MILLS-MONTAGUE-NAVARRO-PALO PINTO-
PARKER-RAINS-ROBERTSON-ROCKWALL-SOMERVELL-STEPHENS-TARRANT-VAN ZANDT-
WISE-YOUNG-
544 PM CST MON DEC 15 2008
.NOW...
WIDELY SCATTERED AREAS OF LIGHT RAIN...LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE AND
LIGHT FREEZING RAIN CONTINUE TO MOVE NORTH AND NORTHEAST ACROSS NORTH
TEXAS THIS EVENING. LITTLE TO NO ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED...HOWEVER
SOME BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES MAY BECOME ICY AS TEMPERATURES CONTINUE
TO REMAIN IN THE UPPER 20S AND LOWER 30S. IN ADDITION...NORTHERLY
WINDS AT 10 TO 15 MPH WILL KEEP WIND CHILL READINGS IN THE TEENS.
$$
82/JLD
Don't see any reporting stations reporting anything, but temps are below freezing, and radar shows some light returns...
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Re: 2008-09 Texas Winter Weather Thread
I can tell you there has been some freezing rain and some sleet in dallas and downtown dallas. it's causing a lot of trouble on bridges in Dallas.
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iorange55 wrote:I can tell you there has been some freezing rain and some sleet in dallas and downtown dallas. it's causing a lot of trouble on bridges in Dallas.
Live traffic cam action?
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This is not a live cam, but it does update every 5 minutes or so. Looks like the bridges are pretty slick around Dallas...Ed Mahmoud wrote:iorange55 wrote:I can tell you there has been some freezing rain and some sleet in dallas and downtown dallas. it's causing a lot of trouble on bridges in Dallas.
Live traffic cam action?
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/i ... aahuge.jpg
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Extremeweatherguy wrote:This is not a live cam, but it does update every 5 minutes or so. Looks like the bridges are pretty slick around Dallas...Ed Mahmoud wrote:iorange55 wrote:I can tell you there has been some freezing rain and some sleet in dallas and downtown dallas. it's causing a lot of trouble on bridges in Dallas.
Live traffic cam action?
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/i ... aahuge.jpg
If you go here you might be able to see something. The news just now showed a big truck that slid off the road and rolled over a few times.
http://dfwtraffic.dot.state.tx.us/
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