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#101 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 12:40 pm

It seems the "eyewall" is trying to close...this is just insane...
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#102 Postby KatDaddy » Fri May 08, 2009 12:44 pm

Simply amazing. Now its really beginning to look like tropical cyclone!
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#103 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 12:44 pm

New Severe Thunderstorm Watch (PDS?) coming out.
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#104 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 12:44 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It seems the "eyewall" is trying to close...this is just insane...


And the current Tornado Warning is in the NW Quadrant. Very impresssive. wxman57 posted these obs from Joplin in our "local Forum"...

Check out the obs from Joplin, MO this morning. It was like a hurricane passing the way the winds rotated around from SE-SW-NW and blew at 65 gusting 80-85 mph.

KJLN| |081553|69.1F|61.0F|75.4%|100|005|000|29.74|999|FEW|
KJLN| |081453|66.0F|61.0F|83.8%|140|006|000|29.69|999|BKN|
KJLN| |081353|63.0F|61.0F|93.3%|030|012|026|29.62|999||Light Rain
KJLN| |081258|64.0F|62.0F|93.9%|330|038|062|OVC|Thunderstorms Rain
KJLN| |081253|64.0F|63.0F|96.3%|320|040|069|OVC|Thunderstorms Rain
KJLN| |081248|64.0F|62.0F|93.9%|310|054|074|OVC|Heavy Thunderstorms
KJLN| |081241|64.0F|62.0F|93.9%|300|045|060|OVC|Heavy Thunderstorms Rain , Mist , Squalls
KJLN| |081232|62.0F|60.0F|93.8%|240|027|040|OVC|Heavy Thunderstorms Rain , Mist
KJLN| |081224|60.0F|60.0F|100.0%|220|027|046|OVC|Heavy Thunderstorms Rain , Mist
KJLN| |081218|62.0F|62.0F|100.0%|220|032|064|OVC|Heavy Thunderstorms Rain , Fog , Squalls
KJLN| |081213|68.0F|66.0F|94.0%|230|037|064|OVC|Light Thunderstorms Rain , Mist , Squalls
KJLN| |081211|71.0F|68.0F|88.5%|240|044|064|OVC|Light Thunderstorms Rain , Mist , Squalls
KJLN| |081153|73.0F|69.1F|87.4%|160|023|031|29.46|OVC|Mist
KJLN| |081148|73.0F|69.0F|88.5%|160|021|027|29.48|OVC|Mist
KJLN| |081053|71.1F|68.0F|90.1%|150|011|000|29.57|BKN|Mist
KJLN| |080953|71.1F|68.0F|90.1%|130|007|000|29.61|BKN|Mist
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#105 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 12:47 pm

Not a PDS (yet). Awaiting the probabilities.

ETA: Probs 90/60 - as high as it can go without going PDS. I guess they see some weakening and using harsher wording may be a bit misleading in eastern areas?

SEL8

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 268
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1245 PM CDT FRI MAY 8 2009

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

PARTS OF SOUTHERN INDIANA
MUCH OF CENTRAL AND PARTS OF EASTERN KENTUCKY
MUCH OF MIDDLE AND PARTS OF EASTERN TENNESSEE

EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 1245 PM UNTIL
700 PM CDT.

HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80
MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80
STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 40 MILES NORTH
NORTHEAST OF LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY TO 40 MILES SOUTH SOUTHWEST OF
CROSSVILLE TENNESSEE. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE
THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 267...

DISCUSSION...MATURE DERECHO CONTINUES RAPIDLY EWD WITH WIDESPREAD
DAMAGING WINDS. AIR MASS WHILE NOT QUITE AS UNSTABLE AS FURTHER
W...IS BECOMING MDTLY UNSTABLE ACROSS THE WATCH AND WILL SUPPORT
CONTINUATION OF DAMAGING WINDS ALONG WITH BRIEF/ISOLATED
TORNADOES...PARTICULARLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE MESO CYCLONE
ACCOMPANYING THE DERECHO.

AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 70
KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM
MOTION VECTOR 26045.


...HALES
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#106 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 12:56 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Not a PDS (yet). Awaiting the probabilities.

ETA: Probs 90/60 - as high as it can go without going PDS. I guess they see some weakening and using harsher wording may be a bit misleading in eastern areas?

SEL8

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 268
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1245 PM CDT FRI MAY 8 2009

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

PARTS OF SOUTHERN INDIANA
MUCH OF CENTRAL AND PARTS OF EASTERN KENTUCKY
MUCH OF MIDDLE AND PARTS OF EASTERN TENNESSEE

EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 1245 PM UNTIL
700 PM CDT.

HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80
MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80
STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 40 MILES NORTH
NORTHEAST OF LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY TO 40 MILES SOUTH SOUTHWEST OF
CROSSVILLE TENNESSEE. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE
THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 267...

DISCUSSION...MATURE DERECHO CONTINUES RAPIDLY EWD WITH WIDESPREAD
DAMAGING WINDS. AIR MASS WHILE NOT QUITE AS UNSTABLE AS FURTHER
W...IS BECOMING MDTLY UNSTABLE
ACROSS THE WATCH AND WILL SUPPORT
CONTINUATION OF DAMAGING WINDS ALONG WITH BRIEF/ISOLATED
TORNADOES...PARTICULARLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE MESO CYCLONE
ACCOMPANYING THE DERECHO.

AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 70
KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM
MOTION VECTOR 26045.


...HALES


That is the key for points further E. Regardless, not going to be a good day for air travel from the NE to points S and W. :wink:
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#107 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 12:59 pm

Damage reports so far into SPC. Long list...

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/today.html

Edit to add Radar Loop from Paducah, KY...


http://radar.weather.gov/radar_lite.php ... R&loop=yes
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#108 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 1:04 pm

That definitely looks like a hurricane there! This might give clues to what Erin did over Oklahoma...

No more warnings in the main line. It seems the big stuff is in the "eyewall". It is now a closed eye!
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#109 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:06 pm

It does appear to be the year for Meso lows. 2 derecho's in less than a week.

Near the Meso Low (eye)...

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PADUCAH KY
1256 PM Cdt FRI MAY 8 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PADUCAH HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
FRANKLIN COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS...
JEFFERSON COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS...
JOHNSON COUNTY IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...
EASTERN UNION COUNTY IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...
WILLIAMSON COUNTY IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...

* UNTIL 200 PM Cdt.

* AT 1254 PM Cdt...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
LARGE AREA OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 80 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE CENTERED
14 MILES WEST OF HURST...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 45 MPH.
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#110 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 1:07 pm

srainhoutx wrote:It does appear to be the year for Meso lows. 2 derecho's in less than a week.


Quite unheard-of in early May. This is more typical of the middle of summertime...
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#111 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 1:08 pm

Separate system or redevelopment further north?

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0762
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0105 PM CDT FRI MAY 08 2009

AREAS AFFECTED...IA

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH LIKELY

VALID 081805Z - 081930Z

SEVERE THREAT WILL INCREASE ACROSS IA AHEAD OF A VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE
TROUGH APPROACHING FROM THE NRN PLAINS. ALTHOUGH INSTABILITY SHOULD
REMAIN MODEST...INTENSE MID-LEVEL FLOW WILL SUPPORT TSTM
ORGANIZATION AND PROBABLE HAIL DEVELOPMENT INITIALLY. A SEVERE TSTM
WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED BY 20Z.

LATEST SUBJECTIVE SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACED A 1004 MB CYCLONE NEAR TQE
DOWNSTREAM OF A POTENT SHORT WAVE TROUGH OVER THE NRN PLAINS /PER
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY/. A QUASI-STATIONARY FRONT WAS DRAPED EWD FROM
THE LOW ALONG THE US-20 CORRIDOR...WITH A COLD FRONT SWWD INTO NRN
KS. STRONGLY FORCED ASCENT SHOULD RESULT IN TSTM COVERAGE INCREASING
INVOF THESE BOUNDARIES OVER IA. INSTABILITY AND LOW-LEVEL FLOW BOTH
APPEAR WEAK IN THE WAKE OF LARGE-SCALE MCS CENTERED OVER THE MID-MO
RIVER VALLEY. HOWEVER...CONTINUED DAYTIME HEATING MAY RESULT IN
MLCAPES APPROACHING 1000 J/KG BY LATE AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH LOW-LEVEL
WINDS SHOULD REMAIN MODEST...MODEL FORECASTS ARE QUITE CONSISTENT ON
STRENGTHENING 500 MB WINDS TO AOA 80 KT OVER MUCH OF NEB THIS
AFTERNOON AND ACROSS THE MO RIVER VALLEY BY 00Z. THIS INCREASE IN
SPEED SHEAR ALONG WITH NEARLY STRAIGHT-LINE HODOGRAPHS SHOULD
INITIALLY FAVOR SPLITTING CELLS PRODUCING SEVERE HAIL. WITH
TIME...UPSCALE GROWTH AMIDST THE STRONG ASCENT MAY LEAD TO A FORCED
LINE WITH STRONG/SEVERE WIND GUSTS.

..GRAMS.. 05/08/2009


ATTN...WFO...DVN...ARX...DMX...FSD...OAX...

LAT...LON 43279218 42919097 41469127 41049185 40739268 40789397
41089536 41429588 42179605 42879517 43199337 43279218
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#112 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:13 pm

:uarrow:
Another complex. Maybe another Meso Low in the works...

http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/sa ... g&itype=wv
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#113 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:17 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PADUCAH KY
114 PM CDT FRI MAY 8 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PADUCAH HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WESTERN FRANKLIN COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS...
SOUTHEASTERN PERRY COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS...
NORTHEASTERN JACKSON COUNTY IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...

* UNTIL 145 PM CDT.

* AT 114 PM CDT...LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTED A TORNADO NEAR
ELKVILLE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 50 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IN THE WARNED AREA INCLUDE...
CHRISTOPHER...
ZEIGLER...
VALIER...
WEST CITY...
SESSER...
BENTON...

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN
116 PM CDT FRI MAY 8 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NASHVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...
EAST CENTRAL STEWART COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...

* UNTIL 200 PM CDT

* AT 114 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 20 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF CLARKSVILLE...OR 7 MILES NORTH OF ERIN...NEAR CUMBERLAND
CITY MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
CLARKSVILLE BY 140 PM CDT...
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#114 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:27 pm

VIS SAT Image 13:25 CDT

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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#115 Postby Brent » Fri May 08, 2009 1:45 pm

srainhoutx wrote:VIS SAT Image 13:25 CDT

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WOW... :eek:
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#116 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:49 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN
143 PM CDT FRI MAY 8 2009

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NASHVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EAST CENTRAL MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...
NORTHWESTERN ROBERTSON COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...

* UNTIL 230 PM CDT

* AT 140 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 18 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF ADAMS...OR 6 MILES SOUTH OF CLARKSVILLE...MOVING EAST
NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
ADAMS BY 205 PM CDT...
CEDAR HILL BY 210 PM CDT...

THIS STORM HAS A HISTORY OF CONTAINING A ROTATING WALL CLOUD...AS WELL
AS STRONG STRAIGHT LINE WINDS AND HAIL.
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#117 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:55 pm

0142 PM TSTM WND GST MARION 37.73N 88.94W
05/08/2009 E82 MPH WILLIAMSON IL TRAINED SPOTTER

STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO ALL BUILDINGS AT THE WILLIAMSON
COUNTY AIRPORT
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#118 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 1:58 pm

We have not posted concerning the flooding aspect of this complex...

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO
151 PM CDT FRI MAY 08 2009

..TIME.. ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE.. ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION.. ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0149 PM FLASH FLOOD PARK HILLS 37.85N 90.53W
05/08/2009 ST. FRANCOIS MO AMATEUR RADIO

WATER RESCUE OCCURRING ON PRIME ROSE ROAD SOUTHWEST OF
PARK HILL MO.
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Re: Central Plains/Ozarks/(Ohio Valley?) derecho - May 8

#119 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 08, 2009 2:04 pm

I have to take a break for a while.
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#120 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri May 08, 2009 2:09 pm

Report from another board: 106 mph winds in Carbondale, IL (equal to a Cat 2 hurricane, at least in gusts!)

1825 106 CARBONDALE JACKSON IL 3772 8922 MEASURED AT A PRIVATE RESIDENCE. (PAH)
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