Models Develop a Disturbance Near Florida (Is invest 90L)

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#101 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri May 15, 2009 12:46 pm

at least the models are developing the same system
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#102 Postby Bailey1777 » Fri May 15, 2009 12:53 pm

Are we still talking about the same possible system as we were when this thread began?
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#103 Postby gatorcane » Fri May 15, 2009 12:54 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:Are we still talking about the same possible system as we were when this thread began?


Yes the same system. But while models are coming into better agreement, it looks like we are going to need to wait until later on next week before anything gets going. Previously some models were jumping on this low to develop earlier in the week.
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#104 Postby Bailey1777 » Fri May 15, 2009 1:05 pm

Question while looking at the long range loop of the GFS is that another possible system following right behind this one?
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GFS/ECMWF/NOGAPS/CMC Develop a Low Next Week

#105 Postby Stormcenter » Fri May 15, 2009 1:15 pm

All I have to is G F S......enough said.
I'll believe it when I see it. All of you will
more then likely enjoy a nice Memorial Day weekend. :)
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#106 Postby Bailey1777 » Fri May 15, 2009 1:21 pm

Well when all you have to talk about is ghost you talk about ghost.
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Re: GFS/ECMWF/NOGAPS/CMC Develop a Low Next Week

#107 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 15, 2009 1:50 pm

12z NOGAPS show weak disturbance in Yucatan Channel.

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Re: GFS/ECMWF/NOGAPS/CMC Develop a Low Next Week

#108 Postby gatorcane » Fri May 15, 2009 1:55 pm

Stormcenter wrote:All I have to is G F S......enough said.
I'll believe it when I see it. All of you will
more then likely enjoy a nice Memorial Day weekend. :)


If you are talking about the first system, GFS has model support from several other models so it may be right. If you are talking about the "one behind it" then yeah -- GFS is probably going to be wrong on that one.
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Re: GFS/ECMWF/NOGAPS/CMC Develop a Low Next Week

#109 Postby Ivanhater » Fri May 15, 2009 1:56 pm

Nogaps

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Re: GFS/ECMWF/NOGAPS/CMC Develop a Low Next Week

#110 Postby gatorcane » Fri May 15, 2009 1:57 pm

and 12Z ECMWF with landfall just west of NOLA in 240 hours....but fortunately keeps the system below hurricane status:

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 9051512!!/

With so many models on board, its looking like we will have something developing towards the end of next week...in the GOM.

All hands on deck folks -- will this season start with a bang?
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#111 Postby RL3AO » Fri May 15, 2009 2:01 pm

If I remember correctly, in the past two years, the models have nailed the first system of the year a week+ out. Lets see if it can happen again.
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#112 Postby gatorcane » Fri May 15, 2009 2:01 pm

OK changed title to reflect all models developing something in the GOM for late next week as all are showing something...

I hate to use the word "GOM" but that is where models are zeroing in on now.

Since we are only in May, we should hopefully expect just a weak, sheared system if anything...

I think Jeff Masters is going to reverse his forecast from earlier today when he was basically writing this thing off....
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#113 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri May 15, 2009 2:11 pm

Landfall 10 days form now as weak system, maybe Sub Tropical Depression near NOLA

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#114 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri May 15, 2009 2:12 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:Landfall 10 days form now as weak system, maybe Sub Tropical Depression near NOLA

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Edit to add: reduntant post, I didn't see link, but a picture is worth a dozen clicks...
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Re: Models Develop a Disturbance in the GOM Late Next Week

#115 Postby gatorcane » Fri May 15, 2009 2:18 pm

Ed, what makes you think that is subtropical? Looks very tropical to me.
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#116 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri May 15, 2009 2:20 pm

This is getting very interesting with so many models on board...
Tampa Bay NWS mentioned something posted a few
pages back about a low over Cuba; Shear is still
very strong, so I think we may get a short lived
subtropical storm that goes extratropical quickly due
to shear.

-----Slight Off Topic but still Tropical Wind in my neighborhood Alert:
Speaking of tropical system...a really strong outflow boundary
(yes I know this was only a thunderstorm but I wish to "brag" about
my storm chasing "catch") brought me TS force winds yesterday (SE 44 G 53 mph downtown Saint Pete Officially); only light rain, but high wind. Lot's of small branches scattered about the yard.
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#117 Postby Bailey1777 » Fri May 15, 2009 2:20 pm

Which model is more trustworthy? GFS shows mid-tx/ ECMWF shows close to NOLA.

Better track record I should say.
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#118 Postby Stormcenter » Fri May 15, 2009 2:21 pm

I hate to burst bubbles but we've seen all of models predict something that never panned this far out on many occasions in the past and that was during the peak months of the season. We are not even in the "official" part of the season. Yeah I know anything is possible (like me winning the Texas lotto) but we know the odds are slim so lets put things into perspective here. We are talking about a phantom system 7-10 days out.
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Re: Models Develop a Disturbance in the GOM Late Next Week

#119 Postby HURAKAN » Fri May 15, 2009 2:23 pm

A ridge of high pressure will continue north of the area, maintaining a breezy easterly wind flow through the weekend along with a high risk of rip currents at the Atlantic Beaches. A trough is forecast to slowly develop into the early part of next week and beyond, with even the possibility of a surface low forming. Although there is uncertainty in the forecast next week, the overall pattern is suggesting the possibility of a widespread, beneficial rainfall across South Florida.

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#120 Postby Stormcenter » Fri May 15, 2009 2:23 pm

This far out.....none of them. :)

Bailey1777 wrote:Which model is more trustworthy? GFS shows mid-tx/ ECMWF shows close to NOLA.

Better track record I should say.
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