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Re: ATL : MODELS : INVEST 93L

#121 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:18 pm

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#122 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:27 pm

Wow, what a beautiful blob. This season I have a feeling we will grasping at all blobs. It will truly be an off year. Between the SOI and El Nino I think that the Cape Verde season will be non existant. The 1915z blob is symmetric with deep convection, a thing of beauty. Of course it could go poof too. Anyway it is something to watch.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#123 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:30 pm

Here is the 72 hour forecast by TAFB.

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#124 Postby southerngale » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:32 pm

It was headed for Texas this morning and now it's Florida... the season has officially begun!


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#125 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:34 pm

OK, why south Fla, Are they expecting the trough split to pick it up? I thought this would be a Yucatan to Tx deal.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#126 Postby caneman » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:34 pm

That ULL is moving SW. In my experience this is classic example of storms coming thru this time of year that this will actually aid in development. Give it another day or two.
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#127 Postby AdamFirst » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:40 pm

OuterBanker wrote:OK, why south Fla, Are they expecting the trough split to pick it up? I thought this would be a Yucatan to Tx deal.


The high pressure ridge "of death" over the gulf is standing pat...it would pretty much force it to go north/northeast. That is, if it's still there at the time.


(I'm not a professional, this is just my opinion, yadda yadda yadda)
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#128 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:49 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Wow, what a beautiful blob. This season I have a feeling we will grasping at all blobs. It will truly be an off year. Between the SOI and El Nino I think that the Cape Verde season will be non existant. The 1915z blob is symmetric with deep convection, a thing of beauty. Of course it could go poof too. Anyway it is something to watch.


My SSD flash loop pops a map of the Philippines into one frame, so I had to turn that off, but it is a thing of beauty.

I suspect poofation as well, and if it doesn't poof, it probably goes to Florida, but my lawn would so love a 40 mph dropping 5 inches of rain and leaving by July 4th storm.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#129 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:53 pm

Stormcenter wrote:A hurricane....hmmmmm I don't know about that.

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Disclaimer: Internet weenie opinion and not official:


Good point about weaker disturbances surviving Yucatan better that stronger ones.

Seeing the better mid-level convergence I'd gamble with development at this point from past behavior of similar disturbances. The only question will be if it is one of those broad GOM June TS's or something tighter. Still, the wise forecaster waits and sees.

If/Once it develops, there's not a whole lot seen at this point that could really slow it down from becoming a hurricane, unless it continues to drift west, bringing it to slightly cooler water temps, and less time over water. Other than that, especially if it goes NE, then I think its possible-assuming it develops at all-to ramp up in strength and possibly become a hurricane. Much too early at this point tho

According to ships, its a possibility. Conditions aren't all that bad right now, so if some sort of llc gets started, i suppose its possible
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#130 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:19 pm

Not so sure a "poof" is imminent. Visible sat shows lots of convergence and continued development of deep convection. Notice the low level clouds streaming into the convection from the SE and SW sides.
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#131 Postby BigA » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:41 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a temporary poof in the sense that convectin will die down at some point, but I think that the environment is becoming increasingly favorable, and If I had to put my money on it, I would say that yes, this becomes classified by this weekend.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#132 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:45 pm

WOW, huge and very nice blowup of convection. Looks pretty good this afternoon. I really think this is going to be named.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#133 Postby drezee » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:46 pm

likely an outflow boundary is about to hit this buoy....pressure dropped 3MB in one hour and winds turned parallel with front of outflow boundary...next hour will tell the tale...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.p ... t=M&tz=STN
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Re: ATL : MODELS : INVEST 93L

#134 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:00 pm

The 18z GFS is more agressive in intensity.I will post the different timeframes in this post.

48 hours

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_048l.gif

72 hours=Tropical Storm

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_072l.gif

78 hours=Tropical Storm

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_078l.gif

96 hours=Going to Florida Penninsula.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_096l.gif

102 hours

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_102l.gif

114 hours=Landfall north of Tampa.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_114l.gif

120 hours=On Georgias coast.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_120l.gif

Loop of the 18z GFS run.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

There you have it.Comments about this run?
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Re: ATL : MODELS : INVEST 93L

#135 Postby jdray » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:30 pm

cycloneye wrote:
There you have it.Comments about this run?


Go away, we have had enough rain.

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#136 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:37 pm

hello .. all
who's excited.. hehe

would say that everything is going for the system at the moment, except for land over the next 24 to 36 hours. right now though there is a large area of concentrated convection but barely any surface reflection. But with such an area of convection and clearly a strong SE inflow and relatively weak inflow on the SW and west side of the convection, there seems to be a increased chance of development before the Yucatan. If the flow through the system was strong from SE then I would say this was no where near any development. but observations show weakening wind field and more convergence over the gulf of Honduras today which would suggest at least a higher chance of development.
one thing must happen and that is, this convection need to persist over night !! if that happens we could wake up to a surface low developing...
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#137 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:39 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:hello .. all
who's excited.. hehe

would say that everything is going for the system at the moment, except for land over the next 24 to 36 hours. right now though there is a large area of concentrated convection but barely any surface reflection. But with such an area of convection and clearly a strong SE inflow and relatively weak inflow on the SW and west side of the convection, there seems to be a increased chance of development before the Yucatan. If the flow through the system was strong from SE then I would say this was no where near any development. but observations show weakening wind field and more convergence over the gulf of Honduras today which would suggest at least a higher chance of development.
one thing must happen and that is, this convection need to persist over night !! if that happens we could wake up to a surface low developing...


Welcome back my friend.Are you ready to rumble on this?
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#138 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:41 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:hello .. all
who's excited.. hehe

would say that everything is going for the system at the moment, except for land over the next 24 to 36 hours. right now though there is a large area of concentrated convection but barely any surface reflection. But with such an area of convection and clearly a strong SE inflow and relatively weak inflow on the SW and west side of the convection, there seems to be a increased chance of development before the Yucatan. If the flow through the system was strong from SE then I would say this was no where near any development. but observations show weakening wind field and more convergence over the gulf of Honduras today which would suggest at least a higher chance of development.
one thing must happen and that is, this convection need to persist over night !! if that happens we could wake up to a surface low developing...


Welcome back my friend.Are you ready to rumble on this?



oh yes!!!.. :)

was on a vacation/physics seminar for the last 3 weeks

this one has some potential :)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#139 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:44 pm

drezee wrote:likely an outflow boundary is about to hit this buoy....pressure dropped 3MB in one hour and winds turned parallel with front of outflow boundary...next hour will tell the tale...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.p ... t=M&tz=STN

that is a huge pressure drop !! for a outflow boundary .. i wonder if its a bad reading ..
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Re: ATL : MODELS : INVEST 93L

#140 Postby Rainband » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:46 pm

nice TS to help the drought :D
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