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#61 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:27 pm

88F showing up now off the SW Coast of FL. There's been a general lack of rain in this area of the coastal waters with plentiful sunshine to warm the SSTs.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#62 Postby BigA » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:09 pm

Neat map Gatorcane! Where did you find it?

GOM and western Atlantic have warmed rapidly in the past few weeks, but the eastern Atlantic remains cooler than 2005-2008.
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#63 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:14 am

BigA wrote:Neat map Gatorcane! Where did you find it?

GOM and western Atlantic have warmed rapidly in the past few weeks, but the eastern Atlantic remains cooler than 2005-2008.


It's maintained by NWS Miami office as part of the MesoAnalysis graphics. Here is the link:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/analysis/?type=SST
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#64 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:15 am

Looking at the SST's from June 2005 & 2009. To me it looks more like an El Nino in 2005 then today. As for the MDR. It is definitely warmer in 2005 then today.
2http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.6.14.2005.gif005

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 5.2009.gif
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#65 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:34 am

HURRICANELONNY wrote:Looking at the SST's from June 2005 & 2009. To me it looks more like an El Nino in 2005 then today. As for the MDR. It is definitely warmer in 2005 then today.
2http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.6.14.2005.gif005

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 5.2009.gif


In 2005, the Nino 3.4 region was at about +0.6C vs about the same today. However, in 2005, the SSTs were dropping fast. Today, the temps in the Pacific are rising fast - leading to an El Nino during peak season. I think that on the next update, Klotzbach/Gray may drop their numbers to 10, since there is a good chance we won't see any named storms in the Atlantic until August.
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#66 Postby jinftl » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:54 am

Given that most early season development takes place in the gulf or sw caribbean....both of which are at or approaching bathwater....what makes you think no development until august, esp if looking at water temps as a basis. Latest TCHP (tropical cyclone heat potential) for those regions are looking impressive in the usual spots.

What conditions would bar development close to home for the next 6+ weeks categorically?

wxman57 wrote:
HURRICANELONNY wrote:Looking at the SST's from June 2005 & 2009. To me it looks more like an El Nino in 2005 then today. As for the MDR. It is definitely warmer in 2005 then today.
2http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.6.14.2005.gif005

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 5.2009.gif


In 2005, the Nino 3.4 region was at about +0.6C vs about the same today. However, in 2005, the SSTs were dropping fast. Today, the temps in the Pacific are rising fast - leading to an El Nino during peak season. I think that on the next update, Klotzbach/Gray may drop their numbers to 10, since there is a good chance we won't see any named storms in the Atlantic until August.
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#67 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:49 pm

jinftl wrote:Given that most early season development takes place in the gulf or sw caribbean....both of which are at or approaching bathwater....what makes you think no development until august, esp if looking at water temps as a basis. Latest TCHP (tropical cyclone heat potential) for those regions are looking impressive in the usual spots.

What conditions would bar development close to home for the next 6+ weeks categorically?

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HURRICANELONNY wrote:Looking at the SST's from June 2005 & 2009. To me it looks more like an El Nino in 2005 then today. As for the MDR. It is definitely warmer in 2005 then today.
2http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.6.14.2005.gif005

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 5.2009.gif


In 2005, the Nino 3.4 region was at about +0.6C vs about the same today. However, in 2005, the SSTs were dropping fast. Today, the temps in the Pacific are rising fast - leading to an El Nino during peak season. I think that on the next update, Klotzbach/Gray may drop their numbers to 10, since there is a good chance we won't see any named storms in the Atlantic until August.

shear, dry air, etc...usually more shear in el nino seasons than other years. Therefore, through high shear, less storms will develop. I dont know how strong SAL is supposed to be this year, but if there's any at all, it will probably lower formation chances further. I personally think we'll see a named storm by mid july, but I can see why there's a possibility that it might not happen till august
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#68 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:49 pm

Look how the GOM warms in a rapid pace with that high pressure parked there causing lack of clouds.

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#69 Postby poof121 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:31 pm

Apparently this is normal though, with the anomalies (except in the BOC) mostly near 0 or slightly negative.
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#70 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:59 pm

I expect SSTs in the low to possibly mid 90s around parts of Florida.
Temperatures will be in the upper 90s close to the coast
for the next 3 days and have been for the past 3 days.
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#71 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:14 pm

Waters right off the upper TX coast are in the low to mid 90's. My Question again is with the High parked over the Gulf shouldn't the anomilies be even higher? I mean I don't recall the last time our area went 28 days with no rain and nothing but sun.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#72 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:19 pm

The latest sst data suggest that warming is taking place in many areas of the basin,including parts of the Eastern Atlantic and the MDR.If I can guess why the warming,is because of the weaker high in the Atlantic,causing less upwelling.

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#73 Postby cpdaman » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:47 pm

in regard to the warming el nino esque trend water of the pacific

do most years with the nino have cooler atlantic water......cause the water's have warmed nicely in the atlantic thanks to i guess the absense of a decent bermuda high.......

i must say it has been baking hot and humid in SE coastal florida.....with light winds for about 2 weeks (cept today) that must do wonders for water temps here
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#74 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:13 pm

Looks like the warmest waters are in the Western Gulf if I'm reading that map right.
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#75 Postby jinftl » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:39 am

Most of the basin has normal to above normal sea temps....no areas of significant below normal temps anywhere...area around Cape Verde is now above normal....note the amazing anomalies in the Canadian maritime waters....wow


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#76 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:10 am

Looks like a cooler version of 2006, I've heard that those sorts of temp profiles tend to mean higher shear in the Atlantic.
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#77 Postby vbhoutex » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:28 am

Current SST at Galveston as of yesterday- 92ºf. :double:
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#78 Postby ROCK » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:08 am

vbhoutex wrote:Current SST at Galveston as of yesterday- 92ºf. :double:


yep and my pool is around 95F...thats hot tub water....something has got to give.....

http://wxmaps.org/pix/hurpot.html#ATL
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#79 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:47 pm

Many are saying that the Atlantic MDR is cooler than normal. I am not a pro met, but looking at the map below, I am not seeing the large extent of cool water that some have mentioned. Am I missing something?

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#80 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:19 pm

Emmett_Brown wrote:Many are saying that the Atlantic MDR is cooler than normal. I am not a pro met, but looking at the map below, I am not seeing the large extent of cool water that some have mentioned. Am I missing something?

http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/oper/natl_sst_oper0.png


That's because you're looking at an SST analysis chart and not an anomaly chart. Check below. See all the O to -1C anomalies east of the Caribbean and even into the eastern Caribbean? Note that the core of warmer anomalies are north of 20N?

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