ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

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#4201 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm

is this seriously about to stall again and fire more convection near that swirl.. lol

DIE ALREADY>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :double: :double: :double:

models still are being dumb and offer no help since its moving so slowly and reforming so much that it has missed the first trough then the rebuilding of the ridge and now probably going to miss the second trough. If this re strengthens and magically survives im going to write a long paper about it.. geez..
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#4202 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:07 pm

I'm not dead yet! Come see me with my new reformed center! I might just suprise you.

See you in the Bahamas :cheesy:
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#4203 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:08 pm

going to write a long paper about it


This system has to be studied by scientists to see all the factors that caused this to act in the way it did since emerging Africa.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4204 Postby Shewtinstar » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:
going to write a long paper about it


This system has to be studied by scientists to see all the factors that caused this to act in the way it did since emerging Africa.


It's a woman. That explains it all. And I can say that because I am woman too.
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#4205 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:
going to write a long paper about it


This system has to be studied by scientists to see all the factors that caused this to act in the way it did since emerging Africa.


and Im one of them its actually very intriguing :) lots of physics involved for me :) hence my paper idea.


on a side note for those that know the importance of this.. Scientist Found MAGNETIC MONOPOLES !!
that is going to change a lot of text books and physics in general ..:)
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4206 Postby SapphireSea » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:12 pm

Lol.

I think it's basic thunderstorm activity with shear prolonging the convection similar to how shear sustains a line of super cells, this is creating a false sense of persistence of storms that develop. I understand the dynamics are different over water in the tropics, but this is what I believe is happening with this. The instability of the wave/trough is causing the convection to fire up, but not organize because of the shear, but persists BECAUSE of the shear too.

As its been said UL winds and shear are not very predictable, so in a low shear area, this CAN regenerate. But for now its EXPECTED to die via land interaction.
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#4207 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:13 pm

Shewtinstar wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
going to write a long paper about it


This system has to be studied by scientists to see all the factors that caused this to act in the way it did since emerging Africa.


It's a woman. That explains it all. And I can say that because I am woman too.

haha.. nevermind no study needed

geez women always causing problems :P
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#4208 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:13 pm

Maybe it is the Bermuda Triangle, the vortex sucking in boats and planes is now working its magic on the GFS when it runs a storm inside the triangle.
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#4209 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:20 pm

Agua wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:Then the GFS runs it right into a building ridge right out east of the Carolina's!


We saw that several times in 2004 / 2005.


This time, GFS has a weakness to the NE and the storm follows that track
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#4210 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:20 pm

My first bone to pick with the NHC. I think it is a mistake not to mention the possibility that a 2nd LLC could form in the Mid-level Circulation and Convection to the east of the current LLC. If this convection re-fires as it looks to be doing so in the latest visible and maintains overnight and the first LLC either dissipates or moves far enough to the west that it becomes a non player it is always a possibility that new LLC could form.
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#4211 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm

There have been several other tropical systems (Betsy,Juan,Elena and others) that have done crazier things that were not predicted by any models or anyone then Erika. Erika in my opinion never had a bright (for significant development) future to begin with. Some of the models (GFS...I think)were losing it around the Bahamas from the get go and no one could understand why. Well now we know why. Again this is all just my opinion.


cycloneye wrote:
going to write a long paper about it


This system has to be studied by scientists to see all the factors that caused this to act in the way it did since emerging Africa.
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#4212 Postby Shewtinstar » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm

haha.. nevermind no study needed

geez women always causing problems


At least she didn't run around naked like Danny did. Typical male! :roll:
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#4213 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm

I'm certainly no expert but to me the racing llc has dissipated and the mlc north of the islands has become more pronounced. It looks like inflow is becoming more symmetrical with deepening convection. Whether or not it gets to the surface is the question. Nothing this year makes sense and anything is possible.
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#4214 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm

IMO that is still not going change what's ahead for Erika. She could reform anywhere
but the shear is still not going away per the NHC. She would still have to contend with it (shear).


Dean4Storms wrote:My first bone to pick with the NHC. I think it is a mistake not to mention the possibility that a 2nd LLC could form in the Mid-level Circulation and Convection to the east of the current LLC. If this convection re-fires as it looks to be doing so in the latest visible and maintains overnight and the first LLC either dissipates or moves far enough to the west that it becomes a non player it is always a possibility that new LLC could form.
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#4215 Postby Shewtinstar » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm

I'm really surprised that nothing popped in the GOM this year.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA - Computer Models

#4216 Postby BigA » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:28 pm

Is there any degree of plausibility to these models? I don´t think I have ever seen so many models predict regeneration and deepening from a cyclone that looked to be dying. Do the models predict shear to decrease, or are they simply failing to understand that there is a great deal of shear?
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#4217 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm

Shewtinstar wrote:I'm really surprised that nothing popped in the GOM this year.

hehe.. the year is nowhere near over.. :P
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ERIKA (06L)

#4218 Postby capepoint » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:32 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
sandyb wrote:
i just read jb and i did not read that where did you get that info from jb?


He's been saying that all week. Today's comments included words like "big factor for the East Coast", "I think the center is reforming and means business near Guadeloupe", etc. Just confirming his forecast of a big hurricane in the Bahamas by late this holiday weekend.


he was on that train yesterday and big factor to me sounds like he is still on it


JB has been on the big east coast storm train forever....guess if you forcast something long enough..maybe it will happen one day and prove you right...at least we cant say he didnt warn us......for years and years lol
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

#4219 Postby SapphireSea » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm

Shear is very rampant this year. Gulf has been blasted by jet-like shear for the past few weeks. Ana was discombobulated by a ULL, Bill had it good till he got caught by the trough and got hit with the SW shear, Claudette was in the GOM and developed when the conditions were good in the EGOM. Danny was a mess as it was, being caught by another trough/front. And Erika became a victim of strong WATL/ECARIB Shear that is often present in El Nino years. (Although the shear Erika encountered was more MidLvl). Aside from the west carrib, and the east Atlantic there aren't many areas that are favorable for a significant TC.
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#4220 Postby Shewtinstar » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:36 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Shewtinstar wrote:I'm really surprised that nothing popped in the GOM this year.

hehe.. the year is nowhere near over.. :P


So there is still hope? Ya, I know, it's sick, but I love the hurricanes. Jacksonville is due.
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