ATL: TROPICAL LOW ex-FRED (ex-07L)

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#1081 Postby Emmett_Brown » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:50 pm

Fred remnant back to code yellow:

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ABNT20 KNHC 172343
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT THU SEP 17 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SATELLITE IMAGERY THIS EVENING SHOWS THAT A SMALL LOW PRESSURE AREA
HAS FORMED ABOUT 525 MILES SOUTH OF BERMUDA IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE
REMNANTS OF HURRICANE FRED. HOWEVER...THE ASSOCIATED SHOWER
ACTIVITY IS CURRENTLY MINIMAL...AND UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT
CONDUCIVE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD ABOUT 15 MPH.

SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED THIS EVENING IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA CENTERED ABOUT 900 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF
THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS
POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD
AT ABOUT 10 TO 15 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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#1082 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:54 pm

hehe.. not surprised.. to see low chance.. :uarrow: :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1083 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:58 pm

To be honest, the upper air enviroment dosn't look too bad right now. I think its only going to have to fight dry air. Not saying its going to be anything worth noting, but low level conv. is increasing. 850mb looking better as well. We shall see...

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#1084 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:06 pm

deltadog03 wrote:To be honest, the upper air enviroment dosn't look too bad right now. I think its only going to have to fight dry air. Not saying its going to be anything worth noting, but low level conv. is increasing. 850mb looking better as well. We shall see...

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speaking of low level convergence.. it has come up a significant amount..
and yeah for the next 24 hours or there is some sinking air over but that should lessen in about 24hrs. so we can only watch and wait to see if Mr. Fred can do the seemingly impossible..lol

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#1085 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:18 pm

I learned long ago to never say never on an EX-TC when it is still a low and convection occasionally pops unless it is under great shear and/or cold SST's.
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#1086 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:20 pm

convection popping tonight, very near or over the center of the surface low.
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#1087 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:30 pm

Looks pretty close to the center of that vortex. However, I think the tops are being blown off a bit. Shear dosn't look bad, but its certainly not ideal
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#1088 Postby vacanechaser » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:33 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:How many times will it be said "this should open up and die out" before Fred does not exist anymore in this Universe? There is no doubt there is a nice little low level spin there, we can all see it. Maybe it will come all the way over and reach land in a few days or maybe it really will finally open up and die. So far, it has not done that despite almost a week of people saying it would. It is what it is.




amen.. it seems to never quit...



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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1089 Postby ozonepete » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:39 pm

hehe. Yellow again! And the NHC is still using "Fred" in its analysis.

"It is what is." I like that, hurricanetrack.

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1090 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:14 pm

The circulation is very clear. I just love the tropics, always full of surprises. :D

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#1091 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:25 pm

This thing is moving alot faster than I anticipated. Maybe some naked swirl warnings should go up. :wink:
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1092 Postby breeze » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:44 pm

It just keeps on going...and going...and going...


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#1093 Postby ozonepete » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:02 pm

AdamFirst wrote:This thing is moving alot faster than I anticipated. Maybe some naked swirl warnings should go up. :wink:


lol would be very funny, category NS
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#1094 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:07 pm

AdamFirst wrote:This thing is moving alot faster than I anticipated. Maybe some naked swirl warnings should go up. :wink:


Even at the current speed it's still 2.5 days if it were to come to Florida. Lots can happen in 48+ hours if the conditions are decent.
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#1095 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:07 pm

..... Fred's still there lol?????? Fred is a fighter lol. At this point though, if this system was to reform, would it still be called Fred? It has spouted a new circulation, the old one died.
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#1096 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:18 pm



Well if you look at the tight little circulation it is moving rate along the NAM track. It seems a west track is likely w/ the ridge building in. It would be crazy for the NAM to nail a track.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1097 Postby frederic79 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:19 pm

Ocean temperatures ahead of ex-Fred should gradually increase, assuming the remnants continue westward. Also, shear conditions should improve in the next 48 hours, according to shear tendency maps I've seen. With a ridge building to the north, things could get interesting.
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#1098 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:22 pm

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1099 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:25 pm

new storms seem to be firing near or around the center as of the last 30 min
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#1100 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:28 pm

Going to need to be watched over the next couple of days for sure and if nothing else should bring some more rain into Florida early next week!
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