ATL: TROPICAL LOW ex-FRED (ex-07L)

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#1101 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:31 pm

They have moved one of the Ramsdis Floaters back onto it. Has a tight low level circulation for sure, shows up beautifully on here.......


http://www.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/rmsd ... PICAL.html
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#1102 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:34 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:..... Fred's still there lol?????? Fred is a fighter lol. At this point though, if this system was to reform, would it still be called Fred? It has spouted a new circulation, the old one died.



same circ as before no new one .
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#1103 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:34 pm

And if you extrapolate the synoptics from the NAM it makes sense that it would cross FL over into the GOM maybe just north of Tampa or thereabouts.
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#1104 Postby expat2carib » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:38 pm

It's a Déjà vu. Some models were predicting this for over a week ago and went away from it again.

Back to sleep again I guess. :double:
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#1105 Postby ozonepete » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:39 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:..... Fred's still there lol?????? Fred is a fighter lol. At this point though, if this system was to reform, would it still be called Fred? It has spouted a new circulation, the old one died.


We were talking about this a little bit before. The NHC referred to this LLC as a part of the remnants of Fred at 8PM:
A 1015 MB SURFACE LOW ...REMNANT OF FRED...IS CENTERED NEAR 25N62W AND EXTENDS A SURFACE TROUGH FROM 22N62W THROUGH THE LOW TO 27N61W. SURFACE CONVERGENCE NEAR THE LOW AND TROUGH ARE SUPPORTING ISOLATED SHOWERS FROM 20N-26N BETWEEN 59W-65W.

So I would think that if it reformed they would...?

P.S. I still don't think it will make it, but it's amazing how hard it keeps going.
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#1106 Postby IvanSurvivor » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:40 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:And if you extrapolate the synoptics from the NAM it makes sense that it would cross FL over into the GOM maybe just north of Tampa or thereabouts.



And then go...?
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1107 Postby MGC » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:07 pm

Quite surprised that Fred has held together considering the lack of convection near the center. Still have to watch it because you never know what the tropics will do.....MGC
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#1108 Postby blp » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:19 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

Still there


Looking at that image it looks like it's still has some shear that is blowing off the convection to the south. The shear just won't let up. I can't believe it's still going with such hostile conditions.
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#1109 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:37 am

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#1110 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:45 am

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1111 Postby ronjon » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:51 am

Our little friend Fred is still hanging on this morning. Pretty well-developed LLC. Thunderstorms still being blown to the south by strong N-NE wind shear. Wind shear slackens some by 70W and is really light in the Bahamas so I think we need to still watch it. Steering winds bring the system due west into FL in 3-4 days.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-avn.html
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#1112 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:52 am

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1113 Postby ronjon » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:55 am

Be interesting if the energy from the trough along 75W gets pulled into the circulation of ex-Fred, The NAM was showing this the last several runs.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L) - Computer Models

#1114 Postby ronjon » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:06 am

06Z NAM:

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#1115 Postby hurricanetrack » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:17 am

If this makes it to land looking anything like it does now, or better, I think I will have to be there just to see what Fred looks like in person. It would be one of the weakest systems I have ever intercepted but my goodness, it was once a cat-3 hurricane and traveled all this way. Just might have to consider going to Florida or where ever this thing ends up.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1116 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:24 am

I see reds on the IR, the recent convection to the S of the circulation may be the beginning. It's near 67W which is nearly 800 miles E of Florida, this could easily develope into a TS before coming to or near Florida. I welcome a nice 50-60 mph TS. :D
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#1117 Postby Shewtinstar » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:34 am

hurricanetrack wrote:If this makes it to land looking anything like it does now, or better, I think I will have to be there just to see what Fred looks like in person. It would be one of the weakest systems I have ever intercepted but my goodness, it was once a cat-3 hurricane and traveled all this way. Just might have to consider going to Florida or where ever this thing ends up.


I am in Jacksonville, if it heads this way bunk out at my house.

What are the chances for rapid intesification?
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1118 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:36 am

Shewtinstar wrote:I am in Jacksonville, if it heads this way bunk out at my house.

What are the chances for rapid intesification?



:uarrow: Less than 30%. :D
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FRED (07L)

#1119 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:47 am

Looks like the shear has eased, I don't see the cloud tops being blown off. There is still dry air around this system but that air is slowly moistening. Can this circulation maintain the convection, let's see if the recent ball of convection along the south side of the circulation can continue to build. I think this bears watching!

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http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-wv.html
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#1120 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:48 am

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ABNT20 KNHC 181131
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT FRI SEP 18 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE SMALL LOW PRESSURE AREA ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS OF FRED IS
CENTERED ABOUT 475 MILES SOUTH OF BERMUDA. THIS SYSTEM IS MOVING
WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH WITH MINIMAL SHOWER ACTIVITY. UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE NOT CURRENTLY FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.


A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ABOUT 950 MILES WEST OF THE
SOUTHERNMOST CAPE VERDE ISLANDS CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF
ORGANIZATION. WHILE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE ONLY MARGINALLY
FAVORABLE...SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE AS IT
MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND 10 MPH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 TO 50 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BRENNAN

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