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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#621 Postby metenthusiast » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:27 pm

ozonepete wrote:There will be adjustments based on the changing forward speeds it exhibits, so it's a good idea to watch the landfall time, which will gradually become more stable over the next day or two.


Thanks! You bet I would. I changed my dialysis treatment that was scheduled for the 31st, moved it on Friday, 30th. I just hope I made the correct decision. :roll:
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#622 Postby oaba09 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:32 pm

WTPN32 PGTW 280300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TYPHOON 23W (MIRINAE) WARNING NR 009
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
280000Z --- NEAR 16.2N 138.5E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 280 DEGREES AT 17 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 040 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 015 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
015 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
015 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
015 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 16.2N 138.5E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
281200Z --- 16.7N 135.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 275 DEG/ 15 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
290000Z --- 17.0N 132.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 090 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
095 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 275 DEG/ 13 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
291200Z --- 17.2N 129.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 100 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 11 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
300000Z --- 17.1N 126.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 100 KT, GUSTS 125 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 110 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
105 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
115 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 09 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
310000Z --- 16.7N 123.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
100 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 08 KTS
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LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
010000Z --- 16.3N 120.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 080 KT, GUSTS 100 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 09 KTS
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120 HRS, VALID AT:
020000Z --- 16.1N 116.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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REMARKS:
280300Z POSITION NEAR 16.3N 137.7E.
TYPHOON (TY) 23W (MIRINAE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1020 NM EAST OF
MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 17 KNOTS OVER THE PAST
SIX HOURS. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 280000Z IS 19 FEET.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 280900Z, 281500Z, 282100Z AND 290300Z.//
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#623 Postby oaba09 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:34 pm

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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#624 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:34 pm

Prognostic Reasoning of 0300z Warning by JTWC

For those who live in Luzon,read carefully what JTWC is discussing about the track and intensity.

WDPN32 PGTW 280300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 23W (MIRINAE) WARNING NR 09//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 12 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
A. TYPHOON (TY) 23W (MIRINAE) IS TRACKING WESTWARD OVER THE PAST
12 HOURS AND HAS RAPIDLY INTENSIFIED TO 75 KNOTS. DVORAK ESTIMATES
FROM PGTW, KNES AND RJTD CURRENTLY SUPPORT INTENSITIES FROM 75 TO 90
KNOTS. THIS FORECAST IS PRIMARILY BASED ON THE PGTW AND RJTD
ESTIMATES. MICROWAVE IMAGERY OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS HAS SHOWN A WELL
DEFINED EYE HAS DEVELOPED, AND IS BEGINNING TO BE APPARENT IN
MULTISPECTRAL IMAGERY AS WELL. THE POLEWARD OUTFLOW CHANNEL HAS
REMAINED WELL ESTABLISHED OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS WITH THE MID-
LATITUDE TROUGH NORTH OF TY 23W THAT HAS STARTED TO LIFT OUT TO THE
NORTHEAST. STRONG ZONAL FLOW ACROSS SOUTHERN JAPAN IN THE UPPER
LEVEL HAS STARTED TO REPLACE THE TROUGH AS THE PRIMARY MECHANISM FOR
POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE COMBINATION OF THE TROUGH AND DEVELOPING ZONAL
FLOW HAS SUPPORTED THE RECENT INTENSITY CHANGE OBSERVED. RADIAL
OUTFLOW, ASSOCIATED WITH AN UPPER LEVEL POINT SOURCE ANTI-CYCLONE
LOCATED TO THE EAST OF TY 23W, HAS MAINTAINED AN EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW
CHANNEL OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS.
3. FORECAST REASONING
A. THE FORECAST REASONING HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING BULLETIN.
B. TY 23W WILL MAINTAIN A GENERAL WESTWARD TRACK TOWARDS LUZON
THROUGH TAU 72 UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A WELL ESTABLISHED MID-LEVEL
SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF MIRINAE. OUTFLOW
FROM THE MID-LATITUDE TROUGH AND ZONAL FLOW WILL DIMINISH SLIGHTLY
OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS, BUT CONTINUED RADIAL OUTFLOW WILL ALLOW FOR
STEADY INTENSIFICATION THROUGH TAU 72. THE INTENSIFICATION WILL BE
SUPPORTED BY LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR CONDITIONS PERSISTING THROUGH
THE ENTIRE FORECAST, ALONG WITH FAVORABLE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES
AND OCEAN HEAT CONTENT.
C. BEYOND TAU 72 MIRINAE IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL WITH
LUZON, WEAKEN AND SLOW SLIGHTLY DUE TO THE LAND INTERACTION, THEN
CROSS INTO THE SOUTH CHINA SEA AROUND TAU 96. AS THE SYSTEM RE-
CONSOLIDATES THE INTENSITY IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN STEADY THROUGH TAU
120. MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING
FORECAST, EXCEPT WITH THE SPEED OF ADVANCE OVER LUZON. MODELS
SUGGEST LITTLE TO NO SLOW-DOWN AS TY 23W CROSSES OVER LUZON. THE
FORECAST INCORPORATES A DECREASE IN TRACK SPEED FROM TAU 72 THROUGH
120 BASED ON LAND INTERACTION WITH THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION.//
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#625 Postby oaba09 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:44 pm

Heading to the grocery...Gonna buy some food for this weekend.......
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#626 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:35 pm

If a threat from a strong typhoon is enough to complicate matters in the Philiphines,a Volcano is showing signs of making an eruption.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerhe ... out-300000
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#627 Postby StormingB81 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:12 pm

That place can't catch a break geez!
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#628 Postby Crostorm » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:20 pm

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#629 Postby Crostorm » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:23 pm

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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#630 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:03 am

correct me if i'm wrong, but a t number of 5.0 means a 90kts typhoon, isn't it? the same thing as yesterday, jtwc's satfix showed a t-number of 3.5 meaning a 55kts sts but in their next issue of forecast, they classified mirinae as a 40kts system.

27/2030 UTC 16.1N 139.4E T5.0/5.0 MIRINAE -- West Pacific
27/1430 UTC 15.7N 141.3E T4.0/4.0 MIRINAE -- West Pacific

now, mirinae is projected to be some 200kms. north of manila, but still i don't think that's a good news for us here. if mirinae became much stronger than the current forecast intensity, then all of us here in luzon will be under a very serious threat O_O
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#631 Postby Infdidoll » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:20 am

The inflow/outflow channels for this typhoon are absolutely amazing, aren't they?

Just read the article about the volcano, too. That is nuts! Did someone put a curse on the Philippines? Seriously.

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#632 Postby StormingB81 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:22 am

The rain bands extend way out form the storm. I mean it looks like the one rain band can hit Japan and Tawain. Thats is crazy.
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#633 Postby StormingB81 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:28 am

From typhoon 2000:

*Alternate Forecast Scenario (AFS): The latest ECMWF Extended Forecast issued at 8PM last night, showed the system passing north of Camarines Norte and traversing Polillo Islands and making landfall over Northern Quezon, Nueva Ecija, Pampanga, and Zambales beginning Saturday afternoon until Sunday morning (Oct 31-Nov 01). This AFS track may happen if the High Pressure Steering Ridge off SE China and Taiwan strengthens more.

Would this still be bad?
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#634 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:32 am

Thoughts and prayers go out to all of those in the Philippine's. What, is this the third typhoon so far? And to top it off with a Volcanic eruption.

Damn.
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#635 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:32 am

StormingB81 wrote:From typhoon 2000:

*Alternate Forecast Scenario (AFS): The latest ECMWF Extended Forecast issued at 8PM last night, showed the system passing north of Camarines Norte and traversing Polillo Islands and making landfall over Northern Quezon, Nueva Ecija, Pampanga, and Zambales beginning Saturday afternoon until Sunday morning (Oct 31-Nov 01). This AFS track may happen if the High Pressure Steering Ridge off SE China and Taiwan strengthens more.

Would this still be bad?


This would be devastating to Metro Manila...
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#636 Postby StormingB81 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:33 am

Wow. Well hopefully something comes along and turns it or weakens it but veen if thats the case with all the rain you guys had any would be bad. I hope all turns out for the best for your guys.
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#637 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:34 am

StormingB81 wrote:From typhoon 2000:

*Alternate Forecast Scenario (AFS): The latest ECMWF Extended Forecast issued at 8PM last night, showed the system passing north of Camarines Norte and traversing Polillo Islands and making landfall over Northern Quezon, Nueva Ecija, Pampanga, and Zambales beginning Saturday afternoon until Sunday morning (Oct 31-Nov 01). This AFS track may happen if the High Pressure Steering Ridge off SE China and Taiwan strengthens more.

Would this still be bad?


that's the worse scenario, making a small distance to manila from the eye. but it seems that every track present at the mean time aren't good for all of us.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#638 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:44 am

instead of feeling threatened by the storm, why don't we make this an opportunity to show the world of what filipinos are capable of. i believe we are strong enough to withstand even the strongest typhoon. haha :)
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#639 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:45 am

I'm starting to see a west, maybe even west southwest movement from this storm. If you look at the last 3 frames, I think you will see a very strong ridge to the north.
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#640 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:56 am

metenthusiast wrote:
StormingB81 wrote:Just thinking positive...Lets hope the computer model is right.


Wish I could do that. But based on this image and other forecast models, thinking realistic is more feasible at the moment

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strong ridge ahead of mirinae. if this trend continues, then a continued west to wsw movement can be expected in the coming hours. central luzon is in danger, still including our area, metro manila :|
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