ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION IDA

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA Update=Winds increased to 65 mph

#381 Postby cycloneye » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:01 pm

I dont think Ida will do like what Jeanne in 1980 did but anything can happen as the tropics many times offer surprises.

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#382 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:02 pm

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#383 Postby ozonepete » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:03 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It seems to be moving north-northwest at the moment based on the two fixes. It might just run the Cabo Gracios region, which is pretty flat.


Good point. Both you and macrocane pointed out that the eastern region is actually not mountainous and is in fact very flat. So we have to watch the track. Any more northward motion could keep it from crossing the mountains at all...

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Just edited to say I meant the good point was about the terrain, not the direction.
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#384 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:08 pm

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Likely to make a run for hurricane intensity before landfall
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#385 Postby Macrocane » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:08 pm

This reminds me to Humberto and Lorenzo forming and intensifying into hurricanes very close to land and in a rapid way, though Ida is still not a hurricane I wouldn't be surprised if it is upgraded on the next full advisory.
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#386 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:10 pm

hehe.. Always a surprise in November.. :D

likely be a hurricane by morning.. well let me rephrase they will likely upgrade by morning, could be a hurricane as early as 11pm
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA - Models

#387 Postby cycloneye » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:24 pm

18z GFDL is more east than the 12z run.Run ends just south of Western tip of Cuba.

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WHXX04 KWBC 042320
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL STORM IDA 11L

INITIAL TIME 18Z NOV 4

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 11.8 82.3 300./ 5.0
6 11.9 82.3 9./ 1.2
12 12.0 82.3 340./ 1.5
18 12.1 82.2 47./ 1.7
24 12.7 82.0 15./ 5.9
30 13.1 82.2 342./ 4.3
36 13.4 82.0 33./ 3.3
42 14.2 81.9 7./ 7.7
48 14.7 81.9 0./ 5.4
54 15.2 81.8 12./ 4.7
60 15.5 81.7 17./ 3.8
66 16.2 81.5 16./ 7.4
72 16.8 81.5 357./ 5.6
78 17.2 81.6 342./ 4.3
84 17.6 81.9 323./ 4.6
90 18.0 82.0 345./ 4.5
96 18.7 82.4 331./ 7.1
102 19.0 82.5 336./ 3.1
108 19.8 82.7 350./ 8.8
114 20.6 83.1 330./ 8.5
120 21.3 83.6 324./ 8.5
126 21.8 84.0 323./ 6.2


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#388 Postby ozonepete » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:24 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:hehe.. Always a surprise in November.. :D

likely be a hurricane by morning.. well let me rephrase they will likely upgrade by morning, could be a hurricane as early as 11pm


It has to do it by 2AM. It will be too close to land or on land by tomorrow morning.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA - Models

#389 Postby attallaman » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:25 pm

I just checked my email and I received one from the NHC about a system down south. I haven't been back here in awhile, is this the forum discussing the system the NHC is talking about? One of the TV stations in NOLA last night mentioned something possibly developing in the BOC. What's the water temps running now in the GOM since cooler weather has made it's way into my region? Tropics have been quiet this year and as far as I'm concerned they can continue to remain quiet. What's forecasted out of this system, a big rain event for someone in the GOM region or are chances for further development not that great?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA - Models

#390 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:25 pm

ROCK wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:18z GFS, keeps Ida offshore

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also closing off something off of Texas?....96hr heading toward the Yucatan.


Jeff Lindner and local mets were discussing something potentially forming in BOC and moving towards Texas/Louisiana.
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#391 Postby gatorcane » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:26 pm

:uarrow:

One thing to watch for. The models that have it more left certainly do not have Ida as strong as it is now and Ida is definitely deepending pretty quickly at the moment....so we could see some models shift back to the right like the GFDL did here to join the ECMWF/UKMET
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#392 Postby gatorcane » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:27 pm

with the recent deep burst of convection, it appears Ida has stalled...but its tough to tell with IR.

18Z GFDL just came in and it takes it towards the Western tip of Cuba, a more climatologically favored track.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#393 Postby Crostorm » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:29 pm

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#394 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:32 pm

gatorcane wrote::uarrow:

One thing to watch for. The models that have it more left certainly do not have Ida as strong as it is now and Ida is definitely deepending pretty quickly at the moment....so we could see some models shift back to the right like the GFDL did here to join the ECMWF/UKMET


In this case Gator, seems that there will be a blocking high preventing any turn to the east like climo would suggest. Still have time for the longrange to work out.

Notice the gfdl run keeps it offshore as well, like the gfs run? That is interesting
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#395 Postby Sanibel » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:32 pm

For the first time this year that black IR might mean something besides making a fool of me for pointing it out:




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#396 Postby gatorcane » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:34 pm

The 18Z GFDL goes crazy with Ida taking it to major hurricanes strength in the NW Caribbean south of Western tip of Cuba...with winds of 140 knots. :eek:
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA - Models

#397 Postby cycloneye » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:35 pm

Holy cow!!! A cat 5 in Western Caribbean in this 18z GFDL run :eek:

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation

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#398 Postby Sanibel » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:36 pm

gatorcane wrote:The 18Z GFDL goes crazy with Ida taking it to major hurricanes strength in the NW Caribbean south of Western tip of Cuba...with winds of 140 knots. :eek:



Ignore GFDL. It's on probation this year. Only use it with storms with an eye.
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#399 Postby gatorcane » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:37 pm

:uarrow:

Let's hope the GFDL is on crack.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM IDA

#400 Postby wxman57 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:38 pm

Sanibel wrote:For the first time this year that black IR might mean something besides making a fool of me for pointing it out:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/avn-l.jpg


:roflmao:
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