ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION IDA

[Blown Away]

Elongation and warming cloud tops hopefully equals weakening.

[JTE50]

This from the wear 3 website

BREAKING NEWS: Escambia County, Florida - Escambia County, Florida public schools (pre-K - 12th grade) will be closed Monday and Tuesday due to the approach of hurricane Ida. Escambia County, FL declared a state of emergency Sunday evening. They are asking for voluntary evacuations along coastal areas. Bridges will be shut down if winds sustain 45 mph or more.

45mph? Sheesh! For a typhoon in the Philippines they don't shut down anything and you can go anywhere you want - at your own risk of course!

It's mostly because of the school buses. It's unsafe for them to operate in winds over 25 or 30 mph, can't remember which. So if half the kids in the school ride the bus, half your students will be out because they won't run the buses. So instead of having so many kids out, they just cancel school. However in some areas private schools will remain open for day care and other services.

If the schools are closed there are no buses running . . . I don't get it. From Ivan's post it seemed like bridges will be blocked if winds get to 45mph and higher period. I can't see blocking the 3 mile bridge between Pensacola and Gulf Breeze for 45 mph wind.

[Dean4Storms]

Here's a good take on it. Mobile's forecast based on the NHC forecast of landfall around P'Cola. Note the wind directions!

.MONDAY NIGHT...HURRICANE CONDITIONS POSSIBLE. RAIN. RAIN MAY BE
HEAVY AT TIMES. LOWS IN THE MID 60S. NORTHEAST WINDS 40 TO 45 MPH
WITH GUSTS TO AROUND 60 MPH BECOMING 40 TO 50 MPH WITH GUSTS TO
AROUND 70 MPH AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF RAIN 90 PERCENT.
.TUESDAY...HURRICANE CONDITIONS POSSIBLE. CLOUDY IN THE MORNING
BECOMING PARTLY SUNNY. CHANCE OF SHOWERS. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 70S.
NORTH WINDS 45 TO 55 MPH BECOMING 40 TO 50 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON.
GUSTS UP TO 75 MPH. CHANCE OF SHOWERS 50 PERCENT.

[Ivanhater]

[Ivanhater]

The bridges have always been closed when sustained winds are over 45mph

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[deltadog03]

Ivan, dosn't look to bad huh? I think we have one more big pulse to go before the weakening phase begins. Looks like a little dry got ingested earlier. It appears its pushing it out though.

[Frank P]

still looks pretty robust to me off of Ivan's sat loop, what the heck is that rotating off in the east side of the storm?

[stormy1970al]

I just got this email from my children's school system in Baldwin County Alabama....

Sunday, November 08, 2009

Baldwin County Public Schools

Dr. Faron L. Hollinger has ordered Baldwin County Public Schools to be closed Monday due to the approach of Hurricane Ida. Information from the EMA and county officials indicate that tropical storm force wind could be in Baldwin County by noon tomorrow. County officials have also declared a state of emergency. In order for families to make preparations as early as possible, Baldwin County Schools will be closed. On Monday a decision will be made about the status of schools on Tuesday.

Terry Wilhite
Director of Communications

[Ivanhater]

Ivan, dosn't look to bad huh? I think we have one more big pulse to go before the weakening phase begins.

Yeah, btw the center is right in the middle of the CDO, not that dry spot on the NE side

[JonathanBelles]

Very good satellite IvanHater (the best contrast I have seen). Its still interesting to me that all of the deep convection is to the west of the eye, when the shear should be pushing it east. Is that the eye though, looks like it is being pushed out of the storm. hmmm

[deltadog03]

Right, I noticed that some dry air tries to get in there from time to time and halts the growing process, but it appears that is being pushed out.

[gatorcane]

Ivan, dosn't look to bad huh? I think we have one more big pulse to go before the weakening phase begins.

Maybe one more. The loop current is about to end so all of those reds you see in the IR...likely will fade away pretty quick leaving mostly yellows and some oranges by landfall.....and a large comma shape appearance as it approaches the Northern Gulf coast. It certainly is not going to look like it does now once it is nearing the Gulf coast. The shear should ramp up pretty quick prior to landfall but not enough to at least bring some decent wind gusts to the coast, but the strongest winds will stay well offshore.

[attallaman]

This from the wear 3 website

BREAKING NEWS: Escambia County, Florida - Escambia County, Florida public schools (pre-K - 12th grade) will be closed Monday and Tuesday due to the approach of hurricane Ida. Escambia County, FL declared a state of emergency Sunday evening. They are asking for voluntary evacuations along coastal areas. Bridges will be shut down if winds sustain 45 mph or more.

45mph? Sheesh! For a typhoon in the Philippines they don't shut down anything and you can go anywhere you want - at your own risk of course!

It's mostly because of the school buses. It's unsafe for them to operate in winds over 25 or 30 mph, can't remember which. So if half the kids in the school ride the bus, half your students will be out because they won't run the buses. So instead of having so many kids out, they just cancel school. However in some areas private schools will remain open for day care and other services.

The city closes the bridges here when the winds reach 39mph. Some of the marinas west of here were ordering their boats to get out today, Pass Christian's harbormaster ordered mandatory evac on their harbor earlier today. The City of Biloxi sent out an email on Ida, to watch it and make preparations just in case it did impact our area and the email also stated that the bridges would be closed once winds reached 39mph. A camera crew from WDSU TV6 out of NOLA was here tonight reporting live from in front of the Beau Rivage Casino Resort.

[Ivanhater]

Very good satellite IvanHater (the best contrast I have seen). Its still interesting to me that all of the deep convection is to the west of the eye, when the shear should be pushing it east. Is that the eye though, looks like it is being pushed out of the storm. hmmm

Thats not the eye to the east, thats a dry spot. You can see it being pushed due east. The eye is right in the middle of the CDO, the light purple colors in the middle. You can see it spinning if you look close.

[deltadog03]

It prolly won't gator, but this booger is moving fairly quickly. Speed can overcome cooler SST's. Especially if the distance its traveling is not very long.

[JonathanBelles]

Very good satellite IvanHater (the best contrast I have seen). Its still interesting to me that all of the deep convection is to the west of the eye, when the shear should be pushing it east. Is that the eye though, looks like it is being pushed out of the storm. hmmm

Thats not the eye to the east, thats a dry spot. You can see it being pushed due east. The eye is right in the middle of the CDO, the light purple colors in the middle. You can see it spinning if you look close.

Ok...thanks. It looked like it (the dry spot) was spinning.

[JTE50]

The bridges have always been closed when sustained winds are over 45mph

humm, well I remember crossing the 3 mile bridge on the downside of Dennis in 2005 yeah, it was blowing more than that too

[Dean4Storms]

Try driving a high profile vehicle or truck and stay in a narrow lane on a bridge with winds above 45mph hitting you broadside and you'll understand why. It would look like a Bristol Nascar race out there!

[crazycajuncane]

Definitely an interesting setup with the possible loop after landfall. Regardless... This late season storm has definitely come out of left field!