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#3401 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:19 pm
iorange55 wrote:orangeblood wrote:I know most people are focused on the short term right now. But I'm noticing a potential big ticket item for early next week. The models are finally picking up on the short wave but don't know what to do with it quite yet. The S/W in question is the one that will be coming through the Pacific Northwest around Sunday and then diving into the central rockies region. This S/W has the potential to cut off from the polar jet and form a potent cut-off low in the southern plains. One analog that has popped up is January 15-16 1964, where DFW saw one of its biggest snowfalls ever (10-12 inches). Just something to keep an eye on!!!
I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.
Na-na-na-na-na ... (
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Meanwhile, look what the nutty Canadian has come up with for lunch today:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_12z/cmcloop.html
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#3402 Postby iorange55 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:24 pm
Portastorm wrote:iorange55 wrote:orangeblood wrote:I know most people are focused on the short term right now. But I'm noticing a potential big ticket item for early next week. The models are finally picking up on the short wave but don't know what to do with it quite yet. The S/W in question is the one that will be coming through the Pacific Northwest around Sunday and then diving into the central rockies region. This S/W has the potential to cut off from the polar jet and form a potent cut-off low in the southern plains. One analog that has popped up is January 15-16 1964, where DFW saw one of its biggest snowfalls ever (10-12 inches). Just something to keep an eye on!!!
I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.
Na-na-na-na-na ... (
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Meanwhile, look what the nutty Canadian has come up with for lunch today:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_12z/cmcloop.html
What if it's the only sane one? Not likely, but you never know. What's its track record?
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#3403 Postby southerngale » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:28 pm
Portastorm wrote:iorange55 wrote:orangeblood wrote:I know most people are focused on the short term right now. But I'm noticing a potential big ticket item for early next week. The models are finally picking up on the short wave but don't know what to do with it quite yet. The S/W in question is the one that will be coming through the Pacific Northwest around Sunday and then diving into the central rockies region. This S/W has the potential to cut off from the polar jet and form a potent cut-off low in the southern plains. One analog that has popped up is January 15-16 1964, where DFW saw one of its biggest snowfalls ever (10-12 inches). Just something to keep an eye on!!!
I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.
Na-na-na-na-na ... (
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Meanwhile, look what the nutty Canadian has come up with for lunch today:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_12z/cmcloop.html
Here's an emoticon for just such an occasion.

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#3404 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:32 pm
I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.[/quote]
Na-na-na-na-na ... (
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Meanwhile, look what the nutty Canadian has come up with for lunch today:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_12z/cmcloop.html[/quote]
Ed stated that the Canadian is on crack!!! LOL
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#3405 Postby iorange55 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:38 pm
Ed stated that the Canadian is on crack!!! LOL
Some of the greatest ideas were thought of while on crack, like rice krispie treats.
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#3406 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:42 pm
You are condoning crack useage by weather models...well this is different. I would think maybe something slower for the system for GFS. Too hyper. LOL
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#3407 Postby Johnny » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:48 pm
txagwxman wrote:"with the middle teens at Conroe with a favorable cold air drainage pattern in the valley around Lake Conroe…could even go a little colder at this location."
There is no cold air drainage around Lake Conroe...CXO just radiates like mad (open sky, open field), similar to Magnolia which one Davis weather station was 22F this morning. In fact temps around Lake Conroe are warmer.
No, temps around Lake Conroe are not warmer. I live not even 5 minutes south of the Lake Conroe Dam area and I had 22.7 degrees this morning. I also live in the middle of the woods.
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#3408 Postby HockeyTx82 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:53 pm
What is the Canadian showing?
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#3409 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:08 pm
HockeyTx82 wrote:What is the Canadian showing?
A broad area of precipitation over Texas on Friday.
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#3410 Postby txagwxman » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:10 pm
Johnny wrote:txagwxman wrote:"with the middle teens at Conroe with a favorable cold air drainage pattern in the valley around Lake Conroe…could even go a little colder at this location."
There is no cold air drainage around Lake Conroe...CXO just radiates like mad (open sky, open field), similar to Magnolia which one Davis weather station was 22F this morning. In fact temps around Lake Conroe are warmer.
No, temps around Lake Conroe are not warmer. I live not even 5 minutes south of the Lake Conroe Dam area and I had 22.7 degrees this morning. I also live in the middle of the woods.
I was talking just around Lake Conroe, like April Sound. But this isn't because of cold air drainage. This is because of the Piney Woods of East Texas (lighter winds, more radiative cooling).
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#3411 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:14 pm
12z Euro is running. Two things catch my attention already:
1) More post frontal moisture than indicated on the last few Euro runs
2) Decent slug of moisture at the 700mb level associated with the precip we have seen in the GFS runs over New Mexico and West Texas on Friday.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMWF_12z/ecmwfloop.html
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#3412 Postby txagwxman » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:14 pm
ECMWF deeper with the trough over TX, maybe, just maybe a flurry Fri.
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#3413 Postby iorange55 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:16 pm
txagwxman wrote:ECMWF deeper with the trough over TX, maybe, just maybe a flurry Fri.
Maybe this is the start of the pitch changing on the flute. One can hope anyways.
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#3414 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:17 pm
txagwxman wrote:ECMWF deeper with the trough over TX, maybe, just maybe a flurry Fri.
Suspected this trend would start. Going to be an interesting 48 hours with the models.
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#3415 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:17 pm
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#3416 Postby Snowman67 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:19 pm
txagwxman wrote:ECMWF deeper with the trough over TX, maybe, just maybe a flurry Fri.
In the words of Jim Carrey in "Dumb and Dumber" - "So you're telling me there's a chance"!
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#3417 Postby txagwxman » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:23 pm
Hmmm, UKMET looks interesting too Fri.
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#3418 Postby iorange55 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:47 pm
Looks the ECMWF might be showing that low later next week......
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#3419 Postby wxgirl69 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:59 pm
iorange55 wrote:Ed stated that the Canadian is on crack!!! LOL
Some of the greatest ideas were thought of while on crack, like rice krispie treats.
OMG!!! you are too funny..

So, what is the Canadian saying?? Wish you could have snow.. NANANANANA NA
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#3420 Postby Big O » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:01 pm
txagwxman wrote:Hmmm, UKMET looks interesting too Fri.
At which site can I access the UKMET that you are referring to? I looked at the PSU ewall site, but the model panels do not provide RH or precipitation values.
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