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#61 Postby KWT » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:00 am

That confirms it Hurakan, the inner core is a total shambles, the actual shape and structure of the cyclone though is pretty good...still it has time and if it does sort out its inner structure then its got the time and the conditions to strengthen quite sharply.
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#62 Postby senorpepr » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:53 am

WTPS11 NFFN 131200
TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY NUMBER A11 ISSUED FROM RSMC NADI
Mar 13/1437 UTC 2010 UTC.

TROPICAL CYCLONE TOMAS 980 HPA WAS LOCATED NEAR 12.3S 179.1W AT
131200 UTC. POSITION FAIR BASED ON HR GMS/GOES VIS/EIR IMAGERY WITH
ANIMATION. CYCLONE MOVING SOUTHWEST AT ABOUT 6 KNOTS. MAXIMUM
10-MINUTE AVERAGE WINDS NEAR THE CENTRE ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 55 KNOTS
INCREASING TO 75 KNOTS IN THE NEXT 18 TO 24 HOURS. EXPECT WINDS OVER
47 KNOTS WITHIN 50 NAUTICAL MILES OF THE CENTRE. EXPECT WINDS OVER 33
KNOTS WITHIN 150 NAUTICAL MILES OF THE CENTRE.

ORGANISATION CONTINUES TO IMPROVE. PRIMARY BANDS CONTINUING TO WRAP
TIGHTLY AROUND LLCC. CYCLONE LIES OVER A WEAKLY SHEARED AND DIFFLUENT
ENVIROMENT. SST 30C. SYSTEM STEERED SOUTHWEST BY NORTHEAST DEEP LAYER
MEAN FLOW. DVORAK ANALYSIS BASED ON 1.0 WRAP ON LOG 10 SPIRAL
YIELDING DT OF 3.5, MET=4.0, PT=3.5. FT BASED ON DT, THUS
T3.5/3.5/D1.0/24HRS. GLOBAL MODELS AGREE ON SOUTHWEST TRACK AND
INTENSIFICATION.

FORECASTS :
AT 12 HRS VALID AT 140000 UTC 13.0S 179.8W MOV SW AT 06 KT WITH 65 KT
CLOSE TO CENTRE
AT 24 HRS VALID AT 141200 UTC 13.7S 179.8E MOV SW AT 06 KT WITH 75 KT
CLOSE TO CENTRE

OUTLOOK :
AT 36 HRS VALID AT 150000 UTC 14.5S 179.6E MOV SSW AT 04 KT WITH 85
KT CLOSE TO CENTRE
AT 48 HRS VALID AT 151200 UTC 15.3S 179.4E MOV S AT 04 KT WITH 90
KT CLOSE TO CENTRE

THE NEXT TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY ON TOMAS WILL BE ISSUED AT
132030 UTC OR EARLIER.
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#63 Postby senorpepr » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:01 pm

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TXPS42 PHFO 131752
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SOUTH PACIFIC TROPICAL CYCLONE SUMMARY - FIXES
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI

1752 UTC SAT MAR 13 2010

A. TROPICAL CYCLONE TOMAS...14F

B. 13/1722Z

C. 12.8S

D. 179.1W

E. GOES-11

F. T4.5/4.5/D1.0/24 HOURS

G. EIR

H. REMARKS...MG SURROUNDING RING YIELDS AN EYE NUMBER OF 4.5. OW EYE
SURROUNDED BY LG GIVES NO EYE ADJUSTMENT. THUS...DT IS 4.5. MET AND
PT AGREE. FT BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS:
13/1324Z 12.8S 179.0W TRMM
13/1322Z 12.7S 179.0W AMSRE
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#64 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:59 pm

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#65 Postby HurricaneBill » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:23 pm

KWT wrote:That confirms it Hurakan, the inner core is a total shambles, the actual shape and structure of the cyclone though is pretty good...still it has time and if it does sort out its inner structure then its got the time and the conditions to strengthen quite sharply.


I think the biggest concern could be rain. This is a large cyclone.
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#66 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:11 pm

This kinda resembles Hurricane Ike in the Gulf in terms of structure. The pressure is probably much lower than its winds call for (it looks to be about a 70 kt storm).
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#67 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:16 pm

not sure how this is a T 4.5 with this inner core

is the dry slot being interpreted as an eye. If so, I could see the T 4.5, though that looks to be an error as that is not an eye
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#68 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:39 pm

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That looks like the eye
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#69 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:40 pm

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That's a LARGE eye
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#70 Postby Sheronz » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:52 pm

Is that possible Tomas becomes an anular cyclone ?
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#71 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:53 pm

Sheronz wrote:Is that possible Tomas becomes an anular cyclone ?


To be annular, cyclones need to loose all banding. Tomas is far, far from doing that. It just has a large center, which is good for Fiji, typically doesn't allow storms to intensify as fast as small ones. Example, Ului!!
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#72 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:58 pm

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#73 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:13 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
Sheronz wrote:Is that possible Tomas becomes an anular cyclone ?


To be annular, cyclones need to loose all banding. Tomas is far, far from doing that. It just has a large center, which is good for Fiji, typically doesn't allow storms to intensify as fast as small ones. Example, Ului!!


It isn't necessarily a good thing, since rainfall will be a HUGE issue, and storm surge could be quite a bit higher than expected for a Category 1 storm. Not to mention the winds would last a lot longer. If the IKE (remember that term?) was calculated, I think Tomas would be pretty close to Ului in that...
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Re: SPO: TROPICAL CYCLONE TOMAS (14F/19P)

#74 Postby Sheronz » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:51 pm

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WTPS32 PGTW 140300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE 19P (TOMAS) WARNING NR 006//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 19P (TOMAS) WARNING NR 006
02 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN SOUTHPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
140000Z --- NEAR 13.6S 179.4W
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 205 DEGREES AT 08 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 100 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
105 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
100 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 13.6S 179.4W
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
141200Z --- 14.6S 179.9W
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 105 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 205 DEG/ 05 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
150000Z --- 15.5S 179.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 105 KT, GUSTS 130 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 110 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 200 DEG/ 04 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
151200Z --- 16.3S 179.4E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 110 KT, GUSTS 135 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
125 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
115 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 200 DEG/ 06 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
160000Z --- 17.4S 179.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 110 KT, GUSTS 135 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
125 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
115 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 175 DEG/ 07 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
170000Z --- 20.0S 179.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 100 KT, GUSTS 125 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
135 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
125 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 145 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
180000Z --- 23.1S 178.4W
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 080 KT, GUSTS 100 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 135 DEG/ 17 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
190000Z --- 27.8S 173.1W
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
EXTRATROPICAL
---
REMARKS:
140300Z POSITION NEAR 13.9S 179.5W.

TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 19P (TOMAS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 295 NM
NORTHEAST OF NADI, FIJI, HAS TRACKED SOUTHWESTWARD AT 08 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL IMAGERY SHOWS
CONVECTIVE BANDING WRAPPING INTO A WELL-DEFINED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER HAS FURTHER CONSOLIDATED. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT TC
19P HAS DEVELOPED A MESOSCALE ANTICYCLONE THAT IS ENHANCING GOOD
RADIAL OUTFLOW IN AN AREA OF LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS). TC 19P IS
CURRENTLY TRACKING ON THE NORTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL
STEERING RIDGE THAT IS WEAKENING DUE TO A TRANSITORY MID-LATITUDE,
UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE WILL CONTINUE TO WEAKEN AND
ALLOW TOMAS TO ROUND THE RIDGE AXIS BY TAU 48 AND THEN BEGIN TO
RECURVE TO THE SOUTHEAST. TC 19P IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE TO INTENSIFY
THROUGH TAU 72, WHEN OCEAN HEAT CONTENT WILL DECREASE AND VWS WILL
INCREASE AS TOMAS BEGINS TO INTERACT WITH THE BAROCLINIC ZONE AND
BEGIN EXTRA-TROPICAL TRANSITION. NUMERICAL MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN
AGREEMENT WITH THE RECURVATURE SCENARIO, HOWEVER THE TIMING OF THE
RECURVE DIFFERS SLIGHTLY. THE GFS MODEL IS AN OUTLIER WITH A SHARPER
TURN AND A SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER TRACK SPEED THAN THE OTHER MODELS.
THE CURRENT FORECAST IS BASED ON THE CONSENSUS OF AVAILABLE GUIDANCE,
WHICH INDICATES A TRACK OVER VANUA LEVU, FIJI.
MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 140000Z IS 22 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS
AT 141500Z AND 150300Z. REFER TO TROPICAL CYCLONE 20P (ULUI) WARNINGS
(WTPS31 PGTW) FOR TWELVE-HOURLY UPDATES.//
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#75 Postby HurricaneBill » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:25 am

I hope Islanda will be OK. He posted here during Cyclone Mick. He lives in Suva. If Tomas takes the projected path, Suva might be close to the center.
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#76 Postby DazzaMc » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:31 am

I cant see Tomas going Cat4 (as predicted by a few NZ forecasters) - it's not organized enough (yet).

Still - I hope Fiji is ducking!
Storm surge could be an issue to the size of the system....

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Re: SPO: TROPICAL CYCLONE TOMAS (14F/19P)

#77 Postby Sheronz » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:10 am

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TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY NUMBER A14 ISSUED FROM RSMC NADI
Mar 14/0913 UTC 2010 UTC.

SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE TOMAS 957 HPA CATEGORY 3 WAS LOCATED NEAR
13.9S 179.5W AT 140900 UTC. POSITION FAIR BASED ON HR GMS/GOES EIR
IMAGERY WITH ANIMATION. CYCLONE MOVING SOUTH-SOUTHWEST AT 05 KNOTS.
MAXIMUM 10-MINUTE AVERAGE WINDS NEAR THE CENTRE ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 75
KNOTS INCREASING TO 90 KNOTS IN THE NEXT 12 HOURS. EXPECT WINDS OVER
63 KNOTS WITHIN 30 NAUTICAL MILES OF THE CENTRE. EXPECT WINDS OVER 47
KNOTS WITHIN 60 NAUTICAL MILES OF THE CENTRE. EXPECT WINDS OVER 33
KNOTS WITHIN 150 NAUTICAL MILES OF THE CENTRE.

CYCLONE CONTINUES TO INTENSIFY. EYE BEGINNING TO SHRINK IN SIZE.
PRIMARY BANDS WRAPPING TIGHTLY AROUND LLCC. CYCLONE LIES OVER A
WEAKLY SHEARED AND DIFFLUENT ENVIROMENT. SST 30C. SYSTEM STEERED
SOUTH-SOUTHWEST BY NORTH-NORTHEAST DEEP LAYER MEAN FLOW. DVORAK
ANALYSIS BASED ON EYE PATTERN WITH OW EYE AND LG SURROUND, YIELDING
DT5.0. MET=5.0 AND PT=4.5, THUS T5.0/5.0/D1.5/24HRS. GLOBAL MODELS
AGREE ON SOUTHWEST TRACK AND FURTHER INTENSIFICATION.

FORECASTS :
AT 12 HRS VALID AT 141800 UTC 14.8S 179.8W MOV SSW AT 05 KT WITH 90
KT CLOSE TO CENTRE
AT 24 HRS VALID AT 150600 UTC 15.5S 180.0 MOV SSW AT 04 KT WITH 100
KT CLOSE TO CENTRE

OUTLOOK :
AT 36 HRS VALID AT 151800 UTC 16.4S 179.7E MOV SSW AT 05 KT WITH 90
KT CLOSE TO CENTRE
AT 48 HRS VALID AT 160600 UTC 17.7S 179.4E MOV S AT 06 KT WITH 85 KT
CLOSE TO CENTRE

THE NEXT TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY ON TOMAS WILL BE ISSUED AT
141430 UTC OR EARLIER.
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#78 Postby islanda » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:55 am

Hi guys,
Yes am still in Suva. It doesn't look good for us if that track eventuates. Haven't posted as busy with work. We're all battened down and ready for Tomas, and what its decided to slow down again! Was initially forecast to hit here today(Sunday here), but this was changed for tomorrow. With latest map looks like it will be near east of Suva on Tuesday night now(at current speed that is)! 10km/hr or 5 knots! Not good as it means more time for strengthening and destructive winds will last longer. Hoping obscuring of eye in last image of IR shows weakening, although forecast to be a Cat 4 before landfall.

Authorities(or some over enthusiastic individual) here jumped the gun on Friday when they sent a directive for all students to go home half day due to the cyclone. It was at the time 600-700km(about 300 miles away?) from the northeastern part of the islands!.

All government workers except essential workers have been told to stay home. Most businesses have also said they'd be closed.
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Re: SPO: TROPICAL CYCLONE TOMAS (14F/19P)

#79 Postby islanda » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:15 am

Update:
We have been put under curfew till further notice! Thought its a bit too early for that........by least around 12 - 24 hrs! Winds here at the moment are still more like 10-15knots.
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#80 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:56 am

much better organized this morning

likely in the 80-90KT range now
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