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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#161 Postby drezee » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:46 pm

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#163 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:55 pm

fact789 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:And if the El Nino is the cause of the persistent negative NAO, then it's the cause of the warmer SSTs.


So, if El Nino trends towards neutral, could the MDR 'cool' or stabalize temperaturewise?


Only if El Nino was the sole cause of the -NAO.
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#164 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:57 pm

Speaking about the NAO,it will remain negative for a while.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#165 Postby drezee » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:25 pm

drezee wrote:Quick update on 41041:

SST is 26.9

previous earliest to 26.9 2006 on May 12...Two months ahead of schedule...Man, I wish I had 2005 data!!!!!!!!!


BTW, on average of the last 4 years the SSTs rise 3.56C from this point. That means a peak 7-day average of 30.4C over the open ocean! Highest temp ever recored at the buoy was 30.3 on very light winds in '08 (7 day averave was 29.5).
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#166 Postby meteorologyman » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:09 pm

srainhoutx wrote:Just remember it takes more than SST's to "bake a cake" so to speak.


This gives me an idea. Maybe we should have a forum on "What makes/hinders a Hurricane"
such as temp for SST's and the depth, Shear levels, Moisture, how SOI, and NOA effect Hurricanes, locations off ITCZ, Dust off Africa La Nina and El-Nino etc.

(note): if we do have forum on this it won't have current data like this topic, it just for definitions and recipe for the storm with extra toppings
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#167 Postby drezee » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:52 am

If hurricanes are the way that the environment transfers warm air to the cooler regions, then please see the temp gradient between 20N and 30N. 2005,1998, and 2010 all have this in common...
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2009 did not have it
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#168 Postby drezee » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:22 am

Another Analog year of 1964 has the same pattern:

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This is cool!
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#169 Postby drezee » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:46 am

excellent paper on SST yearly changes:

http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~carton/pdfs/carton&zhou97.pdf
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#170 Postby gatorcane » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:17 pm

It's quite apparent from these images that over the past 3 months, waters in the Central Pacific are cooling relative to normal (el nino weakening), and waters in the Central and Far Eastern Atlantic are warming more relative to normal.

Jan 18th 2010:
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#171 Postby KWT » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:51 pm

March TNA at the moment looks just a little cooler then it was in Feb with regards to the SSTAs, though its still going to up there with some of the warmest ever thats for sure!

Also that El nino does seem to be getting steadily eroded even if the core remains.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#172 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:49 pm

I think that if el nino weakens to even a .3 neutral and the gradient at 30 north with the atlantic ssta's stays in place I personally think that there's going to be a parade of cape verde storms and maybe several major US landfalls, but I think it all depends on ENSO

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#173 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:51 am

The MDR is boiling.

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#174 Postby Scorpion » Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:21 am

Wow thats just insane! Also look at the TCHP in the Caribbean :eek:

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#175 Postby BigA » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:10 am

Wow! I know that heat potential isn't the be all and end all of tropical cyclone formation, but this map is solidly ahead of even 2005 at this time of year.
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#176 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:38 pm

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#178 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:40 am

cycloneye wrote:The MDR is boiling.

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I cant recall anytime from my memory that the cape verde islands stayed at 26 C nearly all winter !! the eastern atlantic is as everyone has stated clearly above average.. slight understatement of course..

It is one of the question i will be asking at the National Hurricane Conference and FL governs conference..
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#179 Postby KWT » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:45 am

The worrying thing is typically when you have very warm SST's in the E.atlantic there is a weak correlation between that and a very warm W.Atlantic in the summer. This suggests there is a threat that those anomalies will shift westwards with time. I think that occured in 2005 as well...
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#180 Postby Blown Away » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:19 am

During a strong El Nino event don't we usually see warm SST's in the MDR due to a weak Bermuda/Azores high? The result of the weak high is weaker trade winds not upwelling cooler water in the MDR. If there is a transition into a La Nina I think the Bermuda High normally moves closer to the EC. Lots of factors that could potentially make for a busy landfall season for the Caribbean and CONUS. Not excited for landfalls, but I'm getting pumped about the 2010 season!! 8-)
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