MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
Derek,but 2005 had plenty of sal.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
cycloneye wrote:Derek,but 2005 had plenty of sal.
only Irene was SAL affected
The SAL disappeared after that. The dry air could be traced to the mid-latitudes, not the Sahara afterward
tell tale sign as to whether the dry air is SAL or mid latitudes... if the wave/TC is moving fast, it is SAL
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
The CFS model has also lower pressures in the MDR and Caribbean as ECMWF on August and September.
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Aquawind wrote:I really don't like that SW-NE orientation of those pressures over Florida in September..
Another important thing to note Paul is the blocking pattern to the north in Canada that the models have.
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cycloneye wrote:Another important thing to note Paul is the blocking pattern to the north in Canada that the models have.
How would the blocking pattern over Canada influence tropical cyclone tracks?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
BigA wrote:cycloneye wrote:Another important thing to note Paul is the blocking pattern to the north in Canada that the models have.
How would the blocking pattern over Canada influence tropical cyclone tracks?
If there is blocking up in Canada,the systems have a bee-line towards the NE Caribbean,Bahamas,Florida,GOM.
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Yep, if you have higher then normal pressure in Canada then that means the Troughs that would normally help scope the storms for recurve won't be around as often.
It means any system that gets west of say 50-55W without starting to recurve will as Cyclonee said, have a much better chance of risking land.
It's probably part of the reason why Joe B is worried about this season...
It means any system that gets west of say 50-55W without starting to recurve will as Cyclonee said, have a much better chance of risking land.
It's probably part of the reason why Joe B is worried about this season...
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
Looking at the September map, doesn't that setup have weakness off the CONUS that would allow recurves offshore?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
Actually that map shows isobars but I'm not sure how to read it.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
The May outlook by ECMWF for the period of July,August and September for sea level pressures continues to show no changes from past months ones and that is lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean Sea and parts of the Western Atlantic.The blue colors indicate lower pressures while the red colors indicate higher pressures.
ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September
ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
Boy, compare April's ECM forecast for JJA with May's forecast for JAS - much darker blue across the entire tropical atlantic (>70% chance) for lower pressures - darn right scary.
http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/charts/seasonal/forecast/eurosip/group_euro_public/seasonal_charts_mslp!mean%20sea%20level%20pressure!tercile%20summary!2%20months!Tropics!201004!/
http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/charts/seasonal/forecast/eurosip/group_euro_public/seasonal_charts_mslp!mean%20sea%20level%20pressure!tercile%20summary!2%20months!Tropics!201004!/
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
cycloneye wrote:The May outlook by ECMWF for the period of July,August and September for sea level pressures continues to show no changes from past months ones and that is lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean Sea and parts of the Western Atlantic.The blue colors indicate lower pressures while the red colors indicate higher pressures.
ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September
How does this forecast compare to other active years like 2005, 1998, 1995, etc?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
Blown Away wrote:cycloneye wrote:The May outlook by ECMWF for the period of July,August and September for sea level pressures continues to show no changes from past months ones and that is lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean Sea and parts of the Western Atlantic.The blue colors indicate lower pressures while the red colors indicate higher pressures.
ECMWF May MSLP forecast for July,August and September
How does this forecast compare to other active years like 2005, 1998, 1995, etc?
In the link to the left you can see the month section and it goes only to August 2008.
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
It's not quite like what you're asking for, but here is a plot of SLP anomalies for JAS in 1995, 1998, and 2005Blown Away wrote:How does this forecast compare to other active years like 2005, 1998, 1995, etc?

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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
August September and October MSLP forecast by ECMWF
The update by ECMWF MSLP forecast for August,September and October continues to call for below average pressures in the MDR,Caribbean and GOM.

The update by ECMWF MSLP forecast for August,September and October continues to call for below average pressures in the MDR,Caribbean and GOM.

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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
Sorry that I have more bad news about the season being very active,but the truth has to come out. If you thought that the CFS model was going to be less bullish on the lower pressures in the Atlantic ,Caribbean and GOM than ECMWF,well,is worse. The blue colors mean lower pressures and the red higher pressures.The side you have to watch in the graphics is the right side.
MSLP CFS forecast for July August and September
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MSLP CFS forecast for July August and September
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
What do the number gradations mean on the CMS maps? Does the -0.5 line indicate that average pressures will be 0.5 mb lower than climatological average, for example?
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Re: MSLP forecast to be low during peak of 2010 Atlantic season
The June forecast of MSLP from ECMWF for the peak months (ASO) of the season is out and is has not changed from the past 3 month forecasts.In other words lower pressures in the MDR,Caribbean and GOM.


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