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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#921 Postby ColdFusion » Thu May 13, 2010 8:43 pm

rockyman wrote:
Macrocane wrote:
Plant grower wrote:

Because of this, I have decided to start issuing tropical weather discussions starting on Tuesday morning, May 18th.

Everything that I have looked at thus far continues to point towards an above average hurricane season with multiple threats or landfalls on the US coastline and the Caribbean islands.


Where are you going to start issuing discussions at?


Crownweather.com


I can't find any credentials on the poster or the website. Just amateurs like the rest of us (well, most of us) I think.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#922 Postby crownweather » Fri May 14, 2010 6:26 am

Looks like the individual that posted that copied/pasted what I wrote in my tropical weather discussion. Direct link to the discussions: http://www.crownweather.com/?page_id=325 and my 2010 hurricane outlook: http://www.crownweather.com/?page_id=2113

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Macrocane wrote:
Plant grower wrote:

Because of this, I have decided to start issuing tropical weather discussions starting on Tuesday morning, May 18th.

Everything that I have looked at thus far continues to point towards an above average hurricane season with multiple threats or landfalls on the US coastline and the Caribbean islands.


Where are you going to start issuing discussions at?
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#923 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 14, 2010 6:55 am

Nothing on the EURO model for the next ten days.

00 UTC ECMWF Loop
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#924 Postby Macrocane » Fri May 14, 2010 8:12 am

crownweather wrote:Looks like the individual that posted that copied/pasted what I wrote in my tropical weather discussion. Direct link to the discussions: http://www.crownweather.com/?page_id=325 and my 2010 hurricane outlook: http://www.crownweather.com/?page_id=2113

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That's why I asked, because I read your discussion the same day before that post and it seemed suspicious :wink:

And on topic again, it seems that this may be the second year in a row without a May storm in the EPAC.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#925 Postby blp » Sun May 16, 2010 12:42 am

Still out there in the long range but GFS is showing something tonight around the time of the MJO pulse. I need to see the EURO before I jump on it.

00Z GFS 168hr

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264hr. This would be the worst case scenario for this year in my opinion. Right over Haiti.
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#926 Postby meteorologyman » Sun May 16, 2010 2:10 am

and "IF" this did pan out, that storm is belined right where Joe Bastardi mention where majority storms would go.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#927 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 16, 2010 5:54 am

Is the first time this year that GFS is not alone. The ECMWF model shows something but of course,we have to wait for more runs to see if it will trend towards this scenario or it bulks away from this.Here is an excerpt of this morning's discussion by the NWS San Juan about this.

LATEST 00Z ECMWF/GFS MODELS SHOW DEVELOPMENT OF A WEAK TC ACROSS
THE SWRN CARIBBEAN TOWARD THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK MAY 23-24.
WHILE THIS COULD BE A FALSE ALARM THAT MODELS TYPICALLY THROW AT
US IT IS JUST AN INDICATION THAT THE 2010 ATLC HURRICANE SEASON IS
FAST APPROACHING AND PERHAPS FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR TC DEVELOPMENT
LIE AHEAD. THE 2010 NOAA ATLC HURRICANE OUTLOOK WILL BE RELEASED
PUBLICLY THU MAY 20.
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#928 Postby gatorcane » Sun May 16, 2010 8:43 am

Even by the end of day 7 on the 06Z GFS, the low is starting to form in the SW Caribbean coinciding to the arrival of the wet-phase of the MJO. It would still be about a week before the official start of the season but it is a reminder the season is almost here:

You can also see the low start to form in the SW Carb in this animation:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation

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240 hours:
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#929 Postby wxman57 » Sun May 16, 2010 10:25 am

Probably another GFS false alarm. Don't see anything on the ECMWF, either. GFS does this every May.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#930 Postby NDG » Sun May 16, 2010 2:39 pm

Yeap, the GFS does this every year in May in the southern Caribbean so chances of it materializing are probably a trace to nothing, but last night's ECMWF did show a 1006mb low pressure forming off of Nicaragua and the CMC also showed development but a bit farther east closer to Hispaniola, both on their 7-10 day range.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#931 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 16, 2010 3:34 pm

12z NOGAPS at 144 hours.

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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#932 Postby blp » Mon May 17, 2010 12:21 am

00Z NOGAPS 180hr

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#933 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon May 17, 2010 12:29 am

I'm beginning to look more and more into the period between the 21st and the end of the month. MJO is going to be upward, and shear is forecast to decrease. SST(A)'s are high across the caribbean.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#934 Postby cycloneye » Mon May 17, 2010 2:04 pm

ECMWF is on board with SW Caribbean development

Finnally,I wanted another model besides the GFS to show something and by having the EURO on board it gives plenty of truthness that something may develop.Also,it tries to develop something north of the Bahamas.

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#935 Postby KWT » Mon May 17, 2010 3:06 pm

Wow....

ECM making 2 systems in May, that really is quite interesting.

Anyway I think its a bit hard to just write-off this as something the GFS is creating if other models are at least suggesting something could develop as well.

I'd still think this is early models creating something based on much improving upper conditions, whether or not it actually occurs is another matter totally, but its quite interesting to see the first low with multiple model support.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#936 Postby Macrocane » Mon May 24, 2010 9:37 am

GFS and ECMWF are showing the possibility of the first EPAC tropical cyclone of the season this week although they're predicting different tracks, intensities and dates.

GFS 06z 48 hours

Euro 00z run 120 hours
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#937 Postby gatorcane » Wed May 26, 2010 8:59 pm

Checked model guidance. Not much of a heartbeat in the Atlantic over the next 7-10 days, but that is expected this time of year.
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#938 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:04 pm

Checked the various models again, still not much out there for the next 7-10 days at least, again no surprise. Even the GFS is failing to show its typical CAT 5 in the SW Caribbean at 384 hours.
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#939 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:03 am

Yeah models are all quiet, as somewhat expected at this time of year, so looking like a slower start then 05...shock horror :P
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#940 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:35 am

Of course this is way ahead in time and is only a run and we have to see other models joining,but if it pans out,it would be a big nightmare in the GOM and we know why.

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