ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - DISCUSSION

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#3361 Postby xcool22 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:27 am

nnw just little east not much...imo..
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#3362 Postby Texashawk » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:30 am

According to my rough trig, and the vortex message fixes, it's moving in roughly a 335-340 degree direction since around 8 PM CDT.
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#3363 Postby mvtrucking » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:47 am

Texashawk wrote:According to my rough trig, and the vortex message fixes, it's moving in roughly a 335-340 degree direction since around 8 PM CDT.


Wonder where that make it in relation to the 8pm NHC track? You would think it would have to be off somewhat?
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#3364 Postby Texashawk » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:49 am

mvtrucking wrote:
Texashawk wrote:According to my rough trig, and the vortex message fixes, it's moving in roughly a 335-340 degree direction since around 8 PM CDT.


Wonder where that make it in relation to the 8pm NHC track? You would think it would have to be off somewhat?


Oh, it is... about 40 miles to the east of the NHC track so far... and widening.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3365 Postby TwisterFanatic » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:58 am

Its really that far off?
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#3366 Postby xcool22 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:01 am

wow far off
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3367 Postby Texashawk » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:02 am

TwisterFanatic wrote:Its really that far off?


Seems to be. I plotted the vortex coordinates against the NHC forecast coordinates on Google Earth and used a digital scale to measure the variance. It's actually about 42.2 miles, if you want to be picky.
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#3368 Postby dhweather » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:43 am

000
WTNT31 KNHC 290839
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM ALEX ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL012010
400 AM CDT TUE JUN 29 2010

...ALEX SLOWLY STRENGTHENING AS IT MOVES OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF
OF MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 400 AM CDT...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.7N 91.9W
ABOUT 405 MI...650 KM ESE OF LA PESCA MEXICO
ABOUT 460 MI...735 KM SE OF BROWNSVILLE TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/HR
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 340 DEGREES AT 8 MPH...13 KM/HR
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...984 MB...29.06 INCHES
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3369 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:38 am

Texashawk wrote:
TwisterFanatic wrote:Its really that far off?


Seems to be. I plotted the vortex coordinates against the NHC forecast coordinates on Google Earth and used a digital scale to measure the variance. It's actually about 42.2 miles, if you want to be picky.


good calculations, alex wants to keep heading north but will lose that battle shortly according to nhc, hurricanes take the path of least resistence, kind of like me :double:
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3370 Postby tailgater » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:49 am

Pressures up @1mb along the northern GOM from brownsville to Tampa, might move a little farther north but not much before it stalls or moves west.

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3371 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:10 am

TwisterFanatic wrote:
Its really that far off?


Seems to be. I plotted the vortex coordinates against the NHC forecast coordinates on Google Earth and used a digital scale to measure the variance. It's actually about 42.2 miles, if you want to be picky.


Recall that longitudinal lines are not parallel.
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#3372 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:39 am

RECON descending into operational altitude
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3373 Postby Nimbus » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:40 am

Guess we wait for the ridge to build back in. There is a large upper low dropping down from Canada into the great lakes region. Also that Buzz saw ULL approaching Florida. I was thinking if Alex really started winding up, he might pump up a ridge centered over the gulf. No model support for that yet though. Hopefully we will get more than just a thin ridge over the gulf coast. Its going to have to start building up soon or Alex is not going in south of the border.
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#3374 Postby JtSmarts » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:43 am

HURAKAN wrote:RECON descending into operational altitude

I wonder if they'll find a hurricane this time.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3375 Postby Ikester » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:45 am

It's a very rough looking storm if you ask me.
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#3376 Postby KWT » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:50 am

Well we are now upto 60kts so we are getting very close now to a hurricane.

System still moving NNW more or less, I'd expect it to steadily curve round to the NW and then WNW possibly just a little to the north of the offical forecast which would quite possibly make it a US storm...
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#3377 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:51 am

JtSmarts wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:RECON descending into operational altitude

I wonder if they'll find a hurricane this time.


I think it´s possible
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#3378 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:56 am

The RECON knows something could be up when they're staying at 842 mb, not descending to 924 mb like previous missions
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3379 Postby mpic » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:03 am

While it's a little slow, I have a question. Someone said before, I think, that Fla and La are experiencing some storms that are due to this storm. If that is the case, why aren't we getting anything here in Houston? Latitude?
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#3380 Postby cwachal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:03 am

more 50 knt flight level winds ... still not anywhere near the center... I think we will see a 80 mph hurricane with pressure around 978
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