ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3381 Postby cwachal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:04 am

mpic wrote:While it's a little slow, I have a question. Someone said before, I think, that Fla and La are experiencing some storms that are due to this storm. If that is the case, why aren't we getting anything here in Houston? Latitude?


the outflow is restricted in that quadrant
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3382 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:08 am

mpic wrote:While it's a little slow, I have a question. Someone said before, I think, that Fla and La are experiencing some storms that are due to this storm. If that is the case, why aren't we getting anything here in Houston? Latitude?


We got quite a bit a rain yesterday from Alex. I am N of Beaumont in Lumberton. We are under a flood watch according to TWC this morning.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3383 Postby mpic » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:10 am

sphelps8681 wrote:
mpic wrote:While it's a little slow, I have a question. Someone said before, I think, that Fla and La are experiencing some storms that are due to this storm. If that is the case, why aren't we getting anything here in Houston? Latitude?


We got quite a bit a rain yesterday from Alex. I am N of Beaumont in Lumberton. We are under a flood watch according to TWC this morning.


That's why I asked...not a drop south of Houston. I'd like to see a little so this clay soil will be better prepared to soak up what is ahead for us and decrease the severity of flooding.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3384 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:10 am

sphelps8681 wrote:
mpic wrote:While it's a little slow, I have a question. Someone said before, I think, that Fla and La are experiencing some storms that are due to this storm. If that is the case, why aren't we getting anything here in Houston? Latitude?


We got quite a bit a rain yesterday from Alex. I am N of Beaumont in Lumberton. We are under a flood watch according to TWC this morning.


Keep in mind we're talking about "indirect" effects from Alex, like increased moisture off the Gulf along with a decaying frontal boundary sagging south. These rains are not associated with Alex's rain bands or anything like that.
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#3385 Postby Time_Zone » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:14 am

cwachal wrote:more 50 knt flight level winds ... still not anywhere near the center... I think we will see a 80 mph hurricane with pressure around 978


I think you're reaching a bit.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3386 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:18 am

Yes I do realize that. Thankyou. Should have worded it better.

When is Alex suppose to take his turn left. According to the last advisory he will continue his NNW track for several more hours. When did the models predict that would happen?
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#3387 Postby cwachal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:19 am

80 mph flight level winds and are not at the center yet
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3388 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:22 am

sphelps8681 wrote:Yes I do realize that. Thankyou. Should have worded it better.

When is Alex suppose to take his turn left. According to the last advisory he will continue his NNW track for several more hours. When did the models predict that would happen?


If you look at the main models per a site like Stormpulse, it seems Alex better start that northwestward motion in the next six hours or he'll be right of all the projected tracks.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3389 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:30 am

Portastorm wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:Yes I do realize that. Thankyou. Should have worded it better.

When is Alex suppose to take his turn left. According to the last advisory he will continue his NNW track for several more hours. When did the models predict that would happen?


If you look at the main models per a site like Stormpulse, it seems Alex better start that northwestward motion in the next six hours or he'll be right of all the projected tracks.


The advisory said 6-12 hrs NNW. So basically his forward speed would have to increase to make that time frame?

People like me come to this website to get info concerning the storms. Since it is obvious that we don't get alot of details from TV.

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone and keep up the great job.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3390 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:37 am

The lowest pressure found yet in this system is 982.7 mbs. And the winds are almost calm, only 4 kts at that spot.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3391 Postby tolakram » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:40 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-wv.html

Dry air just about gone.

MIMIC-TPW shows Alex really starting to push N/NW

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3392 Postby tailgater » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:44 am

Looks like a NW motion now.
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#3393 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:47 am

Starting to see evidence of our ridge building in toward Alex, think he'll start turning more toward the NW around noon.
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#3394 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:48 am

The map graphic at the top of this page is now showing it as a Cat2 at landfall?


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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3395 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:55 am

Moving a bit faster.

SUMMARY OF 700 AM CDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...22.5N 92.7W
ABOUT 335 MI...540 KM ESE OF LA PESCA MEXICO
ABOUT 380 MI...610 KM SE OF BROWNSVILLE TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/HR
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 330 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/HR
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...983 MB...29.03 INCHES
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#3396 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:59 am

Looks to me that the slight northward motion was because Alex was feeling the trough digging down from the Great Lakes region. Off to the NW of Alex in the Central Plains is the ridge that is pushing SE. Only a matter of time before the ridge pushes Alex more NW, then W eventually (maybe even WSW as some of the models were hinting at a few days ago). Just have to wait and see, can't see it going too much more north at this point without some westerly motion.
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#3397 Postby KWT » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:03 am

I think we are starting to see a NW motion as well now, worth noting the center is right on the NW edge of the convection, thats not a great position for an LLC to be in, unless it changes your going to struggle to get aobve 75kts...of course even that would be a big June landfall...

I'm favoring something very similar to Dolly in 2008 at the moment.
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#3398 Postby KWT » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:08 am

gatorcane wrote:Looks to me that the slight northward motion was because Alex was feeling the trough digging down from the Great Lakes region. Off to the NW of Alex in the Central Plains is the ridge that is pushing SE. Only a matter of time before the ridge pushes Alex more NW, then W eventually (maybe even WSW as some of the models were hinting at a few days ago). Just have to wait and see, can't see it going too much more north at this point without some westerly motion.


Yeah I think you probably will see a bend back towards something close to due west. To be honest I can't really see much deviation from the NHC current track, its looking pretty good right now.

Dolly redux coming up...
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ALEX - DISCUSSION

#3399 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:12 am

Speaking of Dolly, here is the track she took.

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#3400 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:14 am

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