ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - DISCUSSION

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#4001 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:12 am

Looking pretty decent there, should get a proper good look of the core soon enough after the Vis.imagery gets updated in about half an hour.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4002 Postby jasons2k » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:15 am

On radar, Alex has moved to the right of the NHC track. In fact, movement since the 4AM position has been almost due NW:

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#4003 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:22 am

To be fair to the NHC...the stronger the storm, the more and more it wants to go poleward (or in this case to the right), so this may be a case of Alex getting stronger and trying to bump heads with that high, sniffing out any weaknesses it can find.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4004 Postby USTropics » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:24 am

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#4005 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:27 am

Yep Jasons I think your right it is moving more to the NW...

Recon also seems to confirm the movement is more to the NW recently, pressure down to 957.1mbs!
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#4006 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:27 am

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4007 Postby Macrocane » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:29 am

This thing is huge! I think that the cloud field is even larger than that of Ike, and the media is not giving much attention to it, at least the channels that I have.
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#4008 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:29 am

Still no signs of any strengthening according to the winds, still only getting 85-87kts at FL in the NE quadrant.

So still at 70kts, now with a pressure of 957mbs...what a freaky hurricane this is!
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#4009 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:32 am

Pressure keeps dropping and the winds don't respond. That's so weird!!
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#4010 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:35 am

Wilma:

REPEATING THE 5 PM EDT POSITION...16.7 N... 81.5 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 80 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 970 MB.


Alex also beats Wilma at this intensity. After that, Wilma went haywire!!!!
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#4011 Postby USTropics » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:36 am

I can't remember which storm this happened to in 2005 (perhaps Wilma or Rita), but the pressure dropped significantly in the Caribbean, while the winds did not respond at first.
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#4012 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:36 am

Recon measured 88 knots at flight level...using the 80% reduction comes out to 70.4 knots on the surface, and the Smurf picked up 67 knots...both confirming Alex as a 70 knot hurricane.
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#4013 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:37 am

Well we had something similar in the biggies of 2005 but not to the same extent as this. Wilma got down to 970mbs as a 70kts system...The only one that is close is Ike after Cuba where it was down to 959mbs at 75kts....but this one obviously beats both!

Alex is one heck of a first Named Storm of the 2010 season...flooding going to be a big issue for N.Mexico and S.Texas.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4014 Postby Air Force Met » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:38 am

Here is the 00z 500 mb from last night that I hand analyzed every 10mb. It explains the current slow movement and the recent NNW motion. There is the break that Stewart mentioned in the 4am discussion.

Deltadog and I were looking at this trof coming down a couple of nights ago and wondering what impact it would have on the track. We were at a loss since none of the models showed it having an influence...yet it was there breaking down the ridge in NE TX. We felt it had to move north some in response...but at the same time the models had to be seeing something to be in such good agreement.

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#4015 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:40 am

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#4016 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:42 am

How much of an impact will that trof have on Alex's movement, do you think? Since any slight wobble could easily move the landfall point a good distance.
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#4017 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:43 am

Alex has a big double wind Maxima at least on the NE side, upto 84kts WAY out from the eyewall...

Theres your reason why this system is still only at 70kts, its pretty much got the same internal structure as Ike from the looks of things.
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#4018 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:46 am

The NE Quadrant is very strong. Wow.
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#4019 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:49 am

Yeah there are some decent winds well out from the center, which should mean hurricane winds will extend a decent way out I'd imagine because of that double wind Maxima.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4020 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:49 am

12z
AL, 01, 2010063012, , BEST, 0, 235N, 952W, 70, 958, HU
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