ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - DISCUSSION

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#4141 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:07 am

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4142 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:08 am

Big O wrote:GFS and Para GFS show this system heading due west into Mexico and then turn it to the WSW SW.


At this time I'd not bother with the models, they are pretty much worthless this close to landfall...the upper high seems to be weaker then progged thus far.

I still see NW about 310 ATM, the worst case Big O is as you say people aren't prepared and the eyewall closes and bombs Humberto style before landfall. With it having the presentation it has and the sheer size I'm less worried about it bombing but a minimal cat-2 will still do big damage to places unprepared.
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#4143 Postby xcool22 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:12 am

look at steering flow maps
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4144 Postby Brent » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:16 am

Lookout Brownsville.

Time to throw the models out and look at radar.
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#4145 Postby Normandy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:16 am

If this does slam Brownsville very hard I have a feeling the NHC might take flak for it, even though they totally won't deserve it.
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#4146 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:18 am

How well is the LBAR performing, despite the fact it is supposed to be thrown out?
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4147 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:18 am

Brownsville was told over the weekend.
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#4148 Postby bob rulz » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:21 am

Big O wrote:Have not seen one house borded up. Businesses open. If this system comes anywhere close to the Rio Grande Valley, most will be caught completely off guard.


That is really worrying to hear. If I were in the Rio Grande right now, at the very least I would have everything in order to evacuate...not sure if I would board up my house or not but then again I don't live in a hurricane-prone region so I don't really know what I would do.

KWT wrote:Also I agree with your first point, even if it bent back westwards they will probably get TS winds and a heck of a lot of rain...but I think it may get a good bit closer yet.


Absolutely...I mean, as I said, I'm glad the media isn't overhyping it, but the media still needs to do its job in warning people of possible unexpected events and I don't think they've done that very well. All of the news articles I'm seeing are still mostly only mentioning its effects on the oil spill cleanup efforts, and mention that it will make landfall in a sparsely populated area of the Mexican coast as a "category 1 or 2 hurricane".
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#4149 Postby jasons2k » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:23 am

I'm in Galveston today and a pretty decent squall just went through. As I look at the radar loops (with the NHC track superimposed) I am getting very concerned for Brownsville and SPI. Alex continues to track to the right...
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#4150 Postby Normandy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:23 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html

Very evident how far of track it is when you overlay the forecast track. Today is going to be one of the most eventful days in Brownsville ever IMO. Very disconcerting.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4151 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:24 am

The more North this thing happens to go, the longer it will extent its time over water, which is worse for the people.


Edit: Definitely seems NNW. If it manages to stall as some models predict, this could get nasty. A very unpredictable storm.
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#4152 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:24 am

Normandy wrote:If this does slam Brownsville very hard I have a feeling the NHC might take flak for it, even though they totally won't deserve it.


Yeah its clearly not an easy call and even if the system ends up a decent distance to the south then they could still get hit quite hard as the inner bands do have some pretty potent winds when recon went through them, probably enough bring winds close to hurricane force in gusts.

Some very big rains over S.Texas right now, probably a very messy day there with gusts into TS range I'd imagine.

ps, first signs from radar of a bend back to the WNW IMO is starting to show.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4153 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:25 am

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#4154 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:26 am

Normandy wrote:If this does slam Brownsville very hard I have a feeling the NHC might take flak for it, even though they totally won't deserve it.


IF** this does come very close to slamming into brownsville IMO they are going to have to answer some tough questions. Thats provided they don't change there track and it does go into or just south of bro. Why? Well, you look at there latest map and they don't have the border even in the white part. I know things change, and this is NOT a slam on them or anything, but they have to adjust there tracks just like the rest of us. As of NOW, this would have to move nearly DUE WEST to hit there landfall area.

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4155 Postby TexWx » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:27 am

Could this be a coast rider?

I'm really getting worried for my cousins now...
She told me cable is out, so were going the text message route.
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#4156 Postby bob rulz » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:28 am

It does still look like it's trying to mix out some dry air entrainment in the northwest quadrant, but the core looks as strong as ever.
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#4157 Postby bob rulz » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:29 am

Would a hit from the southeast drive a stronger or weaker storm surge into the southeast Texas coastline? I'm still not entirely sure on how it all works. Sometimes I just need a reminder after being away from Atlantic hurricanes for a year LOL.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4159 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:30 am

Shape seems to be aligned north/south. If any model got it right for the wrong reason this is what can happen. Stewart saw the weakness, I'm kind of surprised they didn't change the track. Then again we've been here before and the NHC ended up being correct ... so it's wait and see.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE ALEX - DISCUSSION

#4160 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:31 am

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