ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#381 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:58 pm

Moisture being drawn north like the models suggested the past couple of days

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#382 Postby BigA » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:58 pm

I would pay attention to the north coast of the Yucatan. It seems that weak systems that pass over the Yucatan often form/reform centers there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#383 Postby Sanibel » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:03 pm

I think some are missing the fact the convection motion suggests ongoing cyclogenesis. The only problem is 96L is going to clip cool water north of Yucatan when it emerges and then hit a more hostile ULL synoptic when it fully enters the GOM.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#384 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:04 pm

I don't recall where anyone is writing this off....Just thinking it will not be a Cat 1.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#385 Postby Nederlander » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:07 pm

RachelAnna wrote:Since models are not really supporting development any longer, and assuming that there is no development, where do you think we'll see the rain hit? Still thinking the central Texas to TX/LA border? Or, since some models moved it south are we thinking about a Central TX/Mexico area?

i think the rain will be pretty much spread across texas from east to west.. i see texas getting a pretty good drenching for this.. at least I am glad to see that we probably wont be in a drought this summer
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#386 Postby RachelAnna » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:15 pm

Nederlander wrote:
RachelAnna wrote:Since models are not really supporting development any longer, and assuming that there is no development, where do you think we'll see the rain hit? Still thinking the central Texas to TX/LA border? Or, since some models moved it south are we thinking about a Central TX/Mexico area?

i think the rain will be pretty much spread across texas from east to west.. i see texas getting a pretty good drenching for this.. at least I am glad to see that we probably wont be in a drought this summer


No doubt. While I feel bad for the Houston area that tends to flood easily with every good down pour, nothing is as bad as the drought last summer. That was terrible. When do you think we'll begin to see the rain? End of the week, right?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#387 Postby RainWind » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:27 pm

La. is catching quite a bit of rain at this point. NWS out of NOLA is saying 4-6 inches of rain in our area through tomorrow. Regardless of whether this system develops, we are in for at least another day of rain, and potential flooding where training occurs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#388 Postby cperez1594 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:31 pm

Maybe my eyes are missing with me but I am not sure if this is what you all are talking about but I see a MLC or maybe a LLC trying to form in this area. Correct me if I am wrong. I do see a circulation now starting.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#389 Postby N2Storms » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:32 pm

[quote="RainWind"]La. is catching quite a bit of rain at this point. NWS out of NOLA is saying 4-6 inches of rain in our area through tomorrow. Regardless of whether this system develops, we are in for at least another day of rain, and potential flooding where training occurs.[/quote]


Yes, that gigantic moisture plume in the EGOM is going to propigate westward...we have had periodic rains every day here for a week...looking forward to the drier air filtering in tomorrow thru the weekend.
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#390 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:38 pm

I'm studying the satellite loops and it appears the MLC is trying to move closer to the LL turning to it's NW. I noticed the same thing occured right before Alex except the LL swirl was SW of the MLC before it took off.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#391 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:46 pm

The very latest.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#392 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:52 pm

18z Best Track

Is almost on the North Coast of Yucatan.

AL, 96, 2010070618, , BEST, 0, 206N, 886W, 25, 1008, DB

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#393 Postby xironman » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:16 pm

This is what I see, broad MLC storms bursting where it is reaching Campeche.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#394 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:19 pm

xironman wrote:This is what I see, broad MLC storms bursting where it is reaching Campeche.



Look at the Low level coulds to the NW of the MLC...I think it's has slowed it's progress an the MLC is attempting to suck in or catch up to it.
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#395 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:19 pm

A very messy look to 96L right now, not at all impressive to be honest...the moisture being strung out to the north isn't really a very promising look to a developing system .It does have a potent MLC though so that does need to be watched but I suspect the effects for the W.Gluf will be the same whether it develops or not.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#396 Postby Macrocane » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:20 pm

cperez1594 wrote:Maybe my eyes are missing with me but I am not sure if this is what you all are talking about but I see a MLC or maybe a LLC trying to form in this area. Correct me if I am wrong. I do see a circulation now starting.



I think I see a LLC trying to form too near the northwestern tip of the Yucatan Peninsula.
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#397 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:22 pm

Stormcenter wrote:IMO I would not write off 96L at all
this early in the game.
It still has a lot of water to travel
and even if conditions may not be ideal
in GOM we still may see some development.


I would have to agree with you...regardless of sst's around where ALEX was. There is plenty of potential here. IMO, ssts will have nothing to do with this getting going or not.

http://wxmaps.org/pix/hurpot.html#ATL
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - DISCUSSION

#398 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:23 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:
xironman wrote:This is what I see, broad MLC storms bursting where it is reaching Campeche.



Look at the Low level coulds to the NW of the MLC...I think it's has slowed it's progress an the MLC is attempting to suck in or catch up to it.



good eye....seen that earlier but didnt want to comment on it... :D
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#399 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:25 pm

KWT wrote:A very messy look to 96L right now, not at all impressive to be honest...the moisture being strung out to the north isn't really a very promising look to a developing system .It does have a potent MLC though so that does need to be watched but I suspect the effects for the W.Gluf will be the same whether it develops or not.



I would think that ex-95L / ULL is drawing up this moisture to some extent. Once / IF 96L developes this will not inhibit it....if anything maybe a outflow channel...JMO
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#400 Postby xironman » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:26 pm

KWT wrote:A very messy look to 96L right now, not at all impressive to be honest...the moisture being strung out to the north isn't really a very promising look to a developing system .It does have a potent MLC though so that does need to be watched but I suspect the effects for the W.Gluf will be the same whether it develops or not.


Things may be getting marginally better. Check out how fast that ULL feature is retrograding NW out of the Gulf http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-wv.html it is allowing that convection to burst on the Yucatan coast.

Edit: sorry Rock did not see your post.
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