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#21 Postby NOLA2010 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:42 pm

it is still looking good imo. It might be to low though
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#22 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:14 pm

Good evening,

Yes it is still looking good. I would have thought the cold cloud tops would have cooled after hitting the Atlantic.
If it gets a little better organized it may gain some lattitude, it's wait and see.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#23 Postby Fego » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:23 pm

At 23 UTC... the wave to be still had some convection.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#24 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:46 pm

I want to see 24 more hours and see convection persist to then be more enthusiastic.

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#25 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:51 pm

I'm with you on this Luis....I usually jump the gun too quickly on these waves and look like an idiot when the waves are gone 24 hours later.
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#26 Postby Buck » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:25 pm

Yes, it needs to persist a bit longer to have my full attention, but it not to go poof as soon as it hits the water this early in July... I've definitely got an eye on it.
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#27 Postby Gustywind » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:42 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:I'm with you on this Luis....I usually jump the gun too quickly on these waves and look like an idiot when the waves are gone 24 hours later.

:cheesy: :cheesy: :lol: you're 100% right :ggreen: So don't worry it's the warming-up :)
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#28 Postby BigA » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:56 pm

One semi-important thing is that the convection has persisted yes, but the wave has also re-fired some convection. That's no guarantee that it won't poof (my bet is still on a poof) but it's a step in the right direction.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#29 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:46 pm

I will say the GFS has been showing very favorable conditions in the MDR in the mid to long range...
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#30 Postby Gustywind » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:48 am

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#31 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:26 am

It has lost a lot of the intense storms it had as it left the coast. You no longer see the one big ball of cold cloud tops, it is now more spread out, but still holding the convection. I don't see any models support as of yet.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#32 Postby Fego » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:48 pm

2:00 pm TWD says it has a 1006 MB... wait and see.
TROPICAL WAVE IS APPROACHING THE W AFRICA COAST ALONG 15W/16W S
OF 17N. A NORTHERN LOW-LEVEL DRY VORTICITY CENTER IS NEAR THE
NRN EXTEND OF THE WAVE AXIS ANALYZED AS A 1006 MB LOW NEAR
17N15W. SCATTERED MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM
5N-9N BETWEEN 12W-19W.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#33 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:21 pm

You can forget anything developing in the eastern Atlantic right now.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... split.html

A massive plume of dry air off of Africa all the way into the central Atlantic.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#34 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:42 pm

That is a massive sal outbreak.

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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#35 Postby ColdFusion » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:03 pm

The western Sahel was forcast to be wetter than usual this year thus keeping SAL in check. I wonder if something changed regarding SAL outlooks from earlier in the year.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#36 Postby HurricaneJoe22 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:07 pm

Wow! That's some serious SAL! :eek:
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#37 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:19 pm

I agree, not looking good for the cape verde season. I don't see how all of that SAL is just going to magically go away.
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Re: Strong tropical wave near Africa

#38 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:10 pm

It's not that unusual to see big outbreaks in early July. June is the peak SAL season and it blends into July. Sal tends to really taper off starting the end of July and throughout the first half of August. The Cape Verde Season really gets going around mid August through Early October. The outbreak is probably the result of the ITCZ continuing to trek further north.

As far as July developments go, I would look around the gulf, the Caribbean, off the southeast coast to maybe the central Atlantic (50w and westward) for any development, which is rather typical for July. As far as anomalies go, we're pretty much at near normal levels when it comes to shear and dry air for early July. I highly doubt we'll see a July similar to 2005.
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#39 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:18 pm

Yeah that SAL is normal, there were huge outbreaks even in the biggest CV seasons, Bertha in 2008 was an exception as it found itself inbetween the SAL.

Actually this year probably early July will be the peak because everything is a little surpressed still from the huge winter/spring -ve NAO and it'll probably take the weakening of the QBO signal to allow things to lift off more.

The SAL is just a sign of the ITCZ, every single seaosn in history will have had a big SAL outbreak at some point...its when they happen in late August that it can really hurt a season...

Hurricanecw, I've never been too keen on a huge July, above average but La Nina's aren't well known for active starts ususally...its that meat of the season where they tend to roll off one after another.
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#40 Postby NOLA2010 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:10 pm

the next wave coming off is alot higher in latitude but there is still to much SAL
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