ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - DISCUSSION

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#1501 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:09 am

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#1502 Postby KWT » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:10 am

HURAKAN wrote:AL, 97, 2010072212, , BEST, 0, 216N, 744W, 30, 1008, TD

TD #3


Looks like they've decided the Sat.imagery is enough to upgrade, to be honest after looking at the loops I tend to agree with them.
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#1503 Postby rockyman » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:10 am

I'm assuming we'll have to wait until 10am to get our first "official track", even if they upgrade now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - DISCUSSION

#1505 Postby Recurve » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:11 am

I calculate speed over last 12 hours -- very rough because there was no center -- at 7.5 knots

90 miles change over 12 hours -- from 21.4/72.8 to 21.6/74.4

At that rate, 392 miles to Upper Keys, center arrival at noon Saturday -- if it tracks northwest.

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#1506 Postby rockyman » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:11 am

Easy to spot the center (sheared):

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#1507 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:12 am

rockyman wrote:I'm assuming we'll have to wait until 10am to get our first "official track", even if they upgrade now.


It's an internal upgrade, officially, it will be at 11 am
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#1508 Postby americanre1 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:12 am

So should we be expecting a special TWO at any time or they would wait for at least until 9am eastern.
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#1509 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:12 am

WOW The one day my mom forgets to give me my power cord, so i only hav 4 hours of computer, it forums. Ironic, huh?
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#1510 Postby hiflyer » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:13 am

First off Avila came in and bumped it right back up to 70%...he is the conservative one right? Looks like Georgetown (MYEG) may be the first good weather reporting station on the path after the Turks. Using http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/ to get an idea of which island is what...also shows sea floor which indicates a shelving to quite shallower and most likely warmer water is coming soon. Cannot get Bahamas radar to open up and loop dang it. Grand Piedra radar out of Cuba has got a rough image at long range.
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#1511 Postby Vortmax1 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:13 am

Excellent! I'm glad to see them jump right in on this upgrade early today.
They have a lot of work to do to get everything coordinated.
Can't wait for RECON this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - DISCUSSION

#1512 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:13 am

americanre1 wrote:So we should be getting TS warnings and watches posted at anytime.



I expect that'll happen at 11am. I doubt we get a special advisory unless it ramps up real fast this morning into an obvious TS - most likely TD at 11, TS if and when recon confirms it.
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#1513 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:16 am

Looking at the latest visible images, it seems that we have Bonnie in our hands. RECON will tell us the truth!!

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#1514 Postby thetruesms » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:16 am

HURAKAN wrote:
rockyman wrote:I'm assuming we'll have to wait until 10am to get our first "official track", even if they upgrade now.


It's an internal upgrade, officially, it will be at 11 am
This. They may be toying with the idea of a special advisory due to proximity, but it's not like a hurricane has popped out of nowhere. My expectation is that it will be official in a few hours. We'll ignore the fact that I'm already 0/1 on expectations this morning :lol:
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#1515 Postby x-y-no » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:16 am

hiflyer wrote:First off Avila came in and bumped it right back up to 70%...he is the conservative one right?


He has that reputation. :D

I'll say I've got huge respect for Avila as a forecaster. His writing can be a bit terse and dry, though. 8-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - DISCUSSION

#1516 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:17 am

Vis Loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=5

Looking at the low level flow we have a completely different environment from last night. No more screaming easterlies in the islands. What a difference a day makes.

WV Loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=15

Loop, Zoom=2: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=5

And, in my opinion, that circulation does not look weak this morning.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - DISCUSSION

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#1518 Postby tailgater » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:17 am

hiflyer wrote:First off Avila came in and bumped it right back up to 70%...he is the conservative one right? Looks like Georgetown (MYEG) may be the first good weather reporting station on the path after the Turks. Using http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/ to get an idea of which island is what...also shows sea floor which indicates a shelving to quite shallower and most likely warmer water is coming soon. Cannot get Bahamas radar to open up and loop dang it. Grand Piedra radar out of Cuba has got a rough image at long range.

First thing I thought of when reading the TWO.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - DISCUSSION

#1519 Postby jhpigott » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:18 am

It looks like NHC is going with TD #3 at 11:00am. Any guesses how far north they may post tropical storm watches/warnings along the east coast of Florida. Key Largo? Miami? Ft. Lauderdale? Jupiter Inlet? I forget all the break points. My guess is somewhere by the Broward/PBC line.
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#1520 Postby cwachal » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:18 am

now we just have to have convection wrap around that center all the way and we will have TS here... winds will likely shoot up to 50 mph by tomorrow morning imho
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