ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - RECON DISCUSSION

[tolakram]

Land issues as well, they would be flying near or over some of the islands. Not sure if this is a factor or not.

[cycloneye]

Land issues as well, they would be flying near or over some of the islands. Not sure if this is a factor or not.

Hmm ,I didnt thought about that factor.

[cycloneye]

Land issues as well, they would be flying near or over some of the islands. Not sure if this is a factor or not.

Hmm ,I didnt thought about that factor.

I think is a big factor about why they still have not been thru the NE quad.

[tgenius]

Any idea how long they will be flying out there? How much gas do the HH usually fly with?

[tolakram]

here we go with the NE, SW pass. Waited till they could thread the slot between islands.

[cycloneye]

Whole set of winds in the 30,s.

[cycloneye]

43kts FL - 46 kts SMFR

[thetruesms]

43kts FL - 46 kts SMFR

Looks like the 46 got flagged as no good, but there's a 45 SFMR in there

[cycloneye]

Lowest pressure 1005.6 mbs but rounds to 1006 mbs.

[cycloneye]

Those 43 FL and 45 SMFR found are good to upgrade but they may wait for convection to expand and reform.

[brunota2003]

What reduction for the flight level winds for this flight?

[cycloneye]

What reduction for the flight level winds for this flight?

90% because is a very low level flight.

[AdamFirst]

I got a dumb question

On the Google Maps layout, what do the binoculars mean?

[cycloneye]

Decoded VDM: Who wants to continue posting the obs.?

Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 22nd day of the month at 21:43Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 306)
Mission Purpose: Investigate second suspect area (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 2
Observation Number: 18
A. Time of Center Fix: 22nd day of the month at 21:18:00Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 22°47'N 75°19'W (22.7833N 75.3167W) (View map)
B. Center Fix Location: 192 miles (310 km) to the ENE (60°) from Camagüey, Cuba.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: Not Available
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 45kts (~ 51.8mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 33 nautical miles (38 statute miles) to the ENE (69°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 111° at 43kts (From the ESE at ~ 49.5mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 34 nautical miles (39 statute miles) to the ENE (68°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1005mb (29.68 inHg) - Extrapolated
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 25°C (77°F) at a pressure alt. of 211m (692ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 25°C (77°F) at a pressure alt. of 210m (689ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 22°C (72°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Not Available
M. Eye Shape: Not Available
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Wind and Pressure
N. Fix Levels (sfc and flt lvl centers are within 5nm of each other): Surface and 1,500 feet
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile
Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 43kts (~ 49.5mph) in the east quadrant at 21:04:20Z
Sea Level Pressure Extrapolation From: Below 1,500 feet

[brunota2003]

So...43*0.9 = 38.7 knots at the surface. 38.7*1.151 = 44.5437 mph, or 45 mph tropical storm.

[brunota2003]

I got a dumb question

On the Google Maps layout, what do the binoculars mean?

Those are RECCO observations.

[tailgater]

Will they get another fix before departing?

[cycloneye]

Will they get another fix before departing?

It looks like because they continue flying very low.

[srainhoutx]

It's not all that far the Key West (Boca Chico NAS and EWY) from the Bahamas. I saw several occasions while living down there where C-130's refueled before heading home to Keesler.

[StormTracker]

There's also the Homestead Air Force Reserve Base just north of Key Largo!