ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - DISCUSSION

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#2381 Postby Brent » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:42 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
funster wrote:No sign of Bonnie weakening as some had suggested earlier. NHC does not mention weakening in latest discussion and even mentions some models now strengthening Bonnie in GOM:

THE SHIPS AND LGEM MODELS...PERHAPS RESPONDING TO SOME DECREASE IN THE SHEAR...NOW FORECAST BONNIE TO
PEAK NEAR 60 KT OVER THE GULF.



Then why the heck does it look so awful on satellite? I don't get it.....


What 40 mph TS has EVER looked good? Good looking storms are called hurricanes.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2382 Postby TwisterFanatic » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:44 pm

Thats some cold cloudtops over the center there.. Also looks like it is starting to turn.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2383 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:46 pm

Just because the GOM has bubbling waters means Bon will intensify.
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#2384 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:46 pm

A lot of history!!

Bonnie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Bonnie

The name Bonnie has been used for six tropical cyclones in the Atlantic Ocean. Bonnie is not to be confused with Bonny, which was used in the Pacific Ocean.

1980's Hurricane Bonnie - moved north over the central Atlantic Ocean.
1986's Hurricane Bonnie - a minimal hurricane that hit Beaumont-Port Arthur, Texas, causing light damage.
1992's Hurricane Bonnie - tracked eastward over the Atlantic, striking the Azores as a tropical storm, causing no significant damage.
1998's Hurricane Bonnie - struck Wilmington, North Carolina at just under Category 3 strength on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale
2004's Tropical Storm Bonnie - struck the Florida Panhandle, and caused heavy rainfall along the East Coast of the United States.
2010's Tropical Storm Bonnie - currently active

The name Bonnie has also been used for one tropical cyclone in the Western Pacific Ocean.

1978's Tropical Storm Bonnie (T7810, 11W) - struck Vietnam.

The name Bonnie has also been used for two tropical cyclones in the Southwest Pacific Ocean.

1968's Cyclone Bonnie
2002's Cyclone Bonnie
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#2385 Postby Hurricane » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:47 pm

Because of the ridge and the WNW movement, shouldn't the track shift south next update??
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#2386 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:48 pm

If the center is where i think it is South of the Ball of convection this has definitely turned WNW to even Due West
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#2387 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:49 pm

Hurricane wrote:Because of the ridge and the WNW movement, shouldn't the track shift south next update??


No, this movement was expected
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#2388 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:49 pm

Hurricane wrote:Because of the ridge and the WNW movement, shouldn't the track shift south next update??


No. It's (the storm, that is) not supposed to move south. I think the track stays where it's at.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2389 Postby caneman » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:50 pm

Movement was forecasted in already.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2390 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:51 pm

She's so tiny, reminds me of Marco but slightly bigger. I wonder if it will expand in the GOM plus micro systems tend to fluctuate greatly in intensity.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2391 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:52 pm

Movement still looks like a steady march to S. Florida

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _floater_2
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#2392 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:54 pm

Is it just me or does Bonnie look she is picking up her forward speed?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html
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#2393 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:56 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Is just me or does Bonnie look she is picking up her forward speed?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html


She's booking it storm. That was forecast though.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2394 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:56 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Movement still looks like a steady march to S. Florida

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _floater_2


Yea Ivan I agree still looks on track to clip southern dade county
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2395 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:57 pm

Really deepening convection

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2396 Postby MWatkins » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:57 pm

At the risk of not getting involved in wobble wars...Bonnie does not look very healthy tonight.

It's getting stretched from the ULL on the west side and the approaching TUTT feature from the east (that Frank2 pointed out, quite nicely, earlier today).

Most of the banding features that were with the storm are gone now, and it's barely hanging on to a relatively small area of moderate to somewhat strong convection.

Tomorrow is going to be a gusty and somewhat rainy day, but I really don't see any significant intensification happening in this atmospheric setup.

Given that this is the diurnal max for this system (it's flared up this time of night the last 3 nights), I think we may have seen the best of Bonnie already.

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#2397 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:57 pm

I don't think we should try and guess the current movement of Bonnie based on nighttime IR images. That is never a good idea unless the storm is a strong hurricane and has a clear eye to follow. Luckily recon will be out there soon to help solve this question. Within a few hours we should have an exact storm direction and know whether Bonnie is still moving NW, or has shifted to WNW or W.
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#2398 Postby chzzdekr81 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:59 pm

Hurricane wrote:Because of the ridge and the WNW movement, shouldn't the track shift south next update??

I don't think the track is going to change at all right now. If it continues moving WNW longer than expected, then the models should shift south.
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#2399 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:02 pm

I think Recon will find the llc tucked under the SW side of the convection, with most of it still off to the NE (but it does appear to have organized in terms of finally reeling in the convection nice and close to the llc like I was talking about earlier today)
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#2400 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:21 pm

Bonnie's center is *almost* within view of the long range Miami radar...

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... x&loop=yes

As of now though it is still too far out to gather any useful information from (such as movement, center banding, etc).
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