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#361 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:48 pm

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Chances of becoming a Tropical Depression in...
24 Hours-5%
48 Hours-30%
72 Hours-50%
1 Week-80%

Chances of Tropical Storm in...
24 Hours-<1%
48 Hours-10%
72 Hours-40%
1 Week-80%

Hurricane...
24 Hours-0%
48 Hours-<1%
72 Hours-<1%
1 Week-60%

(Note-i have not looked at the models yet so accuracy-25%)
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#362 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:55 pm

KWT wrote:BA, from there there is enough westward ummph to push the system on a track close to Bonnie.

The ECM really isn't keen on this system but it does do more this run then it has done on the last few runs.


Thanks KWT! Correct me if I'm wrong but many of 90L's runs yesterday had a system in the Bahamas/SFL/Cuba area in the 10-12 day range, now some models are in that area in 8 days and that may include a LLC relocation to the east?? I took the ECM's FL Straits timeframe and it averages about 14 mph.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#363 Postby perk » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:59 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Well, the Euro has been coming further north each run and is pretty much in line with the GFS for much of the time.

Only difference is in the long range when the Euro has just enough of ridging to push in the GOM...

I'm becoming more confident with a strike in the NE Islands heading on a general direction of the Bahamas..we can deal with the rest later...



Ivan i think you're right on the money.After the Bahamas is a crap shoot.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#364 Postby Riptide » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:59 pm

A cherry! :wanna:
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#365 Postby KWT » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:00 pm

Getting very convective now, energy is being increased as the 2nd TW closes in on, looks like to me the 2nd TW isn't developed enough to prevent a total merger with this one.
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#366 Postby Riptide » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:06 pm

KWT wrote:Getting very convective now, energy is being increased as the 2nd TW closes in on, looks like to me the 2nd TW isn't developed enough to prevent a total merger with this one.

It looks like the surface trough/low pressure is climbing in latitude. Once it gets past 10N, there is probably no turning back in terms of development because the Coriolis effect will help initiate cyclonegenesis.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#367 Postby ronjon » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:08 pm

Difference now between ECM and GFS at a little longer than a week out is strong 500 mb ridging over the SE US extending east into the SW atlantic in the Euro and a smaller 500 mb ridge in the GFS centered more over the southern plains which allows the storm to escape north off the coast into a weakness. Also, the Euro is a little faster with the storm by about 24 hrs as it approaches the bahamas.

Upper Air Euro

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Given how consistent that upper ridge has held over the SE US this summer and the better operational performance of the Euro at the long range, I'd have to lean towards its solution at this time.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#368 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:09 pm

Wow, we have a concentrated area of convection with some -80c cloud tops.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#369 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:12 pm

Great graphic Ron..illustrates the longer range ridge better

Notice the ridge oriented SE to NW and shrinking on the Euro.

This will change but the environment looks great for possible bombing around the Bahamas.

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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#370 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:15 pm

If that is the area of focus, then 90L may be reactivated instead of having 91L.
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#371 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:15 pm

How is this not an invest right now? Confusing...
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#372 Postby Riptide » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:18 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:How is this not an invest right now? Confusing...

NHC has done a good job staying with the system but they deactivated it when real development was expected. It sure does look like 90L is large and in charge.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#373 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:20 pm

I'm thinking 40 percent next TWO, maybe 50. The models start developing this within 36 hours which is in the 48 hour window.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#374 Postby Riptide » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:22 pm

I just realized how large the moisture envelope of this system is. Probably the beginnings of a very large TC.
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#375 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:23 pm

From this afternoons San Juan AFD.

FORECAST FROM LATE THU THROUGH SAT WILL BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE
TRACK AND EVOLUTION OF TROPICAL WAVE NEAR 30W. THIS SYSTEM IS
BEING CLOSELY MONITORED BY NHC FOR POTENTIAL TC DEVELOPMENT.
GLOBAL MODELS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY INDICATING SOME TYPE OF
DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS WAVE WITH TRACKS CLOSE TO THE FCST AREA
AROUND THE THU NIGHT-FRI TIME FRAME. REFER TO TROPICAL WX OUTLOOK
FOR MORE DETAILS.
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#376 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:25 pm

Tropics remain quiet for now
M. Ressler, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel
Jul. 31, 2010 3:16 pm ET
The tropics remain void of any active tropical cyclones across the globe.

In the Atlantic, there are 2 areas that are being monitored, but neither is expected to organize and develop into a tropical system over the weekend. One is a tropical wave that is located in the south-central Caribbean which is producing diminished and disorganized showers and thunderstorms. It should move into Central America without developing. Meanwhile, the other area is a broad area of showers and thunderstorms associated with a tropical wave and a trough of low pressure in the Eastern Atlantic. Some slow development is likely within this increasingly active but still disorganized area of showers and thunderstorms.
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#377 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:27 pm

Ample even massive area of convection: an euphemisma :cheesy:
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#378 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:28 pm

Anynone saw another blob pretty very active on Africa? :uarrow:
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#379 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:30 pm

Hey hey looks like small but very concentrated area of convection are doting Africa. Is the train is in route? Let's wait and see as we approach roughly August...
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Re: Wave SW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#380 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:31 pm

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