ATL: EX Tropical Depression FIVE - Models
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
The only way I can see this making it that far west is if this thing started booking it and beat the trough and erosion of the ridge
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
South Texas Storms wrote:so as of right now there is no chance at a texas landfall?
unlikely.....but I wouldnt rule out closer than some of these models are showing....
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HouTXmetro wrote:Yeah, at the moment there is just little if no model support for Texas. The bad part about that is a Louisiana landfall means more oppressive heat for us with all that sinking air.
yeah im especially not looking forward to that.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
EURO out soon.....will it go with the consensus or will it go out on its own rogue solution...
we know the right bias of the GDFL and HWRF but we also know the EURO is left bias.....somewhere in the middle...say SWLA this run..final answer....
we know the right bias of the GDFL and HWRF but we also know the EURO is left bias.....somewhere in the middle...say SWLA this run..final answer....

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
ROCK wrote:EURO out soon.....will it go with the consensus or will it go out on its own rogue solution...
we know the right bias of the GDFL and HWRF but we also know the EURO is left bias.....somewhere in the middle...say SWLA this run..final answer....
Is that your prediction for the EURO run or that's where you think landfall will occur?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
HouTXmetro wrote:ROCK wrote:EURO out soon.....will it go with the consensus or will it go out on its own rogue solution...
we know the right bias of the GDFL and HWRF but we also know the EURO is left bias.....somewhere in the middle...say SWLA this run..final answer....
Is that your prediction for the EURO run or that's where you think landfall will occur?
the EURO run.....


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HouTXmetro wrote:Can't believe i'm staying up late for the EURO. what time can I expect someone to post? getting sleepy, lol.
bro... it will be out very soon....I am monitoring another site which I can get it sooner....hang tight...welcome to the brotherhood..

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LaBreeze wrote:HouTXmetro wrote:Can't believe i'm staying up late for the EURO. what time can I expect someone to post? getting sleepy, lol.
Is the Euro really that dependable and believable? Just wondering.
I think it is when we have a fully developed system. It doesnt do to well with these organizing, center relocating LLCs......I watch it for it rogue solutions it spits out from time to time...
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WHXX01 KWBC 100608
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0608 UTC TUE AUG 10 2010
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL942010) 20100810 0600 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100810 0600 100810 1800 100811 0600 100811 1800
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 25.4N 82.7W 26.2N 83.6W 27.1N 84.7W 28.3N 85.8W
BAMD 25.4N 82.7W 25.1N 84.1W 25.5N 85.6W 26.6N 87.1W
BAMM 25.4N 82.7W 25.7N 84.0W 26.4N 85.4W 27.5N 86.9W
LBAR 25.4N 82.7W 25.2N 83.8W 25.6N 85.3W 26.2N 86.9W
SHIP 25KTS 29KTS 34KTS 40KTS
DSHP 25KTS 29KTS 34KTS 40KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100812 0600 100813 0600 100814 0600 100815 0600
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 29.3N 86.5W 31.2N 86.3W 32.4N 84.6W 33.2N 82.7W
BAMD 27.8N 88.6W 30.1N 90.4W 32.3N 90.3W 33.8N 87.7W
BAMM 28.5N 88.0W 30.6N 88.8W 32.3N 87.9W 33.4N 85.3W
LBAR 26.8N 88.4W 28.3N 91.0W 29.9N 92.4W 31.9N 92.2W
SHIP 44KTS 52KTS 57KTS 59KTS
DSHP 44KTS 43KTS 29KTS 27KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 25.4N LONCUR = 82.7W DIRCUR = 205DEG SPDCUR = 3KT
LATM12 = 25.9N LONM12 = 82.5W DIRM12 = 204DEG SPDM12 = 3KT
LATM24 = 26.5N LONM24 = 81.9W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1012MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = S
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
* ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* GOES DATA AVAILABLE *
* OHC DATA AVAILABLE *
* INVEST AL942010 08/10/10 06 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 25 27 29 32 34 40 44 49 52 54 57 58 59
V (KT) LAND 25 27 29 32 34 40 44 49 43 33 29 27 27
V (KT) LGE mod 25 27 29 32 34 39 43 47 44 33 29 27 27
SHEAR (KT) 17 15 9 7 8 16 12 16 3 9 1 3 1
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -1 -1 0 -1 -1 0 -2 0 -3 -2 0 -3 1
SHEAR DIR 336 19 58 71 74 95 96 102 105 100 214 126 232
SST (C) 30.4 30.4 30.5 30.5 30.5 30.7 31.1 31.6 31.7 31.3 30.8 30.2 30.0
POT. INT. (KT) 168 170 170 170 171 170 170 169 169 169 169 170 168
ADJ. POT. INT. 149 153 156 157 158 159 165 169 169 161 151 141 138
200 MB T (C) -51.5 -51.7 -51.5 -51.4 -51.4 -51.1 -51.1 -50.8 -50.8 -50.4 -50.4 -50.1 -50.0
TH_E DEV (C) 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 13 11 14 12 14 10
700-500 MB RH 56 56 62 59 54 59 53 58 51 54 49 63 63
GFS VTEX (KT) 9 8 9 9 7 8 6 5 3 2 LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR -26 -23 0 -11 -28 -18 -51 -36 -83 -66 -91 -30 -55
200 MB DIV -3 -10 3 -13 -12 5 -5 1 -10 14 17 32 31
LAND (KM) 114 166 207 242 295 284 143 51 -22 -115 -178 -289 -335
LAT (DEG N) 25.4 25.6 25.7 26.1 26.4 27.5 28.5 29.6 30.6 31.6 32.3 33.1 33.4
LONG(DEG W) 82.7 83.4 84.0 84.7 85.4 86.9 88.0 88.8 88.8 88.6 87.9 86.8 85.3
STM SPEED (KT) 4 6 6 7 8 8 7 5 5 5 5 6 7
HEAT CONTENT 11 24 37 62 56 38 54 6 33 34 0 0 0
FORECAST TRACK FROM BAMM INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):205/ 3 CX,CY: 0/ -2
T-12 MAX WIND: 20 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 572 (MEAN=624)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 25.6 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 56.0 (MEAN=65.0)
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
----------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 11. 11. 12. 13. 13.
SST POTENTIAL 0. 0. 0. 1. 6. 13. 22. 27. 33. 37. 40. 41.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 3. 5. 6. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 10. 11. 12.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 1. 1.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -1.
PERSISTENCE 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 0. 0.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -4. -5. -7. -8. -9. -11. -13.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
GFS VORTEX TENDENCY 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -3. -4. -5. -6. -7. -7. -7.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -3. -3. -5. -6. -7. -7. -8.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -3. -4. -4. -4. -3. -2.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -3.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -1. -1.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
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TOTAL CHANGE 2. 4. 7. 9. 15. 19. 24. 27. 29. 32. 33. 34.
** 2010 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL942010 INVEST 08/10/10 06 UTC **
( 30 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): 5.0 Range:-45.0 to 30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.7/ 1.4
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 11.3 Range: 26.2 to 3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.6/ 0.8
D200 (10**7s-1) : -7.0 Range:-21.0 to 140.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.1/ 0.1
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 129.5 Range: 33.5 to 126.5 Scaled/Wgted Val: 1.0/ 0.7
850-700 MB REL HUM (%): 64.0 Range: 56.0 to 85.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.3/ 0.2
% area w/pixels <-30 C: 50.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.4/ 0.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 25.6 Range: 30.6 to 3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.2/ 0.3
Heat content (KJ/cm2) : 38.0 Range: 0.0 to 130.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.3/ 0.0
Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 20% is 1.6 times the sample mean(12.6%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 12% is 1.5 times the sample mean( 8.1%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 8% is 1.7 times the sample mean( 4.8%)
Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold= 4% is 1.0 times the sample mean( 3.4%)
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL942010 INVEST 08/10/10 06 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=5 NFAIL=2 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
## ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY
** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL942010 INVEST 08/10/2010 06 UTC **
TIME(HR) 0-12 12-24(0-24) 24-36(0-36) 36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
well there a consensus for you....
thats why you throw out the BAMMs after 20N....

thats why you throw out the BAMMs after 20N....
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Must be one deep Trough coming down... The BAMS models have shifted east big time. Hopefully this trough can usher in some cooler and drier air into Texas.
LOL, just saw your statement about BAMS...while true it is in line with the other models Rock,.
LOL, just saw your statement about BAMS...while true it is in line with the other models Rock,.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
Well the EURO and GFS both indicate Canada cooling down quite a bit with the 0c line coming close to the USA border. Indications are heights collapse behind FROPA with good squall line pushing through Texas. We'll see. That's gotta be what the models are sniffing.
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HouTXmetro wrote:Must be one deep Trough coming down... The BAMS models have shifted east big time. Hopefully this trough can usher in some cooler and drier air into Texas.
LOL, just saw your statement about BAMS...while true it is in line with the other models Rock,.
true...BAMMs though are worthless after 20N....trof into Texas..AFD- ridge comes back with a vengence by Saturday...
BTW-...look at the xtrap...drifting SW ever so slowly with no steering the LLC will migrate to the blow up of convection....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models
if this moves slower than expected, could it possibly miss the trough coming down and be steered more westerly because of the ridge building back in after the trough?
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