ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

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#2121 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:23 pm

Looks like it has begun moving a tad more north of west the last couple of radar images.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2122 Postby StormClouds63 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:28 pm

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#2123 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:30 pm

Hmmm still a little too early to know stormcloud, I'd imagine the NHC may well upgrade soon, then its dependant on just whether it can stack itself a little better...the thing that may prevent it is the fact that the deep convection is all on the southern side which may limit the winds a little perhaps
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2124 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:35 pm

Add disclaimers when you make absolute statements
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#2125 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:37 pm

It looks like convection is starting to develop to the northeast of center.


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12
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#2126 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:38 pm

Recon clearly showing a pretty well defined low, I'd imagine the NHC will wait to see a decent west wind but given the convection is nearby I see no reason why this won't be upgraded soon.
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#2127 Postby tailgater » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:39 pm

Stormcenter wrote:If it's moving WSW at 6 mph then it has more then enough time
to get it's act together before landfall.


Probably moving a bit faster than that, more 8-12ph. IMHO
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#2128 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:40 pm

wxman57 wrote:Oh, I thought "it" was the recon plane. The low won't move with the upper-level winds. It'll move with the lowest level winds being such a weak low.

My bad! I'll be a little more specific next time, I know I went from recon in one post to storm movement in another :lol:
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2129 Postby petit_bois » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:47 pm

NHC will have to issue tropical storm warnings at 5pm... "it" is going to make landfall somewhere and just the possibility of a TS is evident...

Probably Mississippi coast to Buras, LA

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#2130 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:49 pm

KWT wrote:
wxman57 wrote: It's certainly better organized than when it was first upgraded, but it's quite sheared.


Yeah I agree it does look better then when it got upgraded, its got a classic sheared presentation but since when has that ever stopped the NHC from upgrading in the Gulf. I see no real reason the NHC doesn't upgrade given the fact its close to land.


I do agree it qualifies for a reclassification to a TD and I fully expect the NHC to do so within the hour. But I suspect their track will keep it a TD until it moves inland tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2131 Postby tailgater » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:49 pm

A couple of SFRM obs in the mid 30's range so I wouldn't be surprised to see a upgrade to at least TD status again. sure doesn't look like much ATTM.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2132 Postby MGC » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:50 pm

The low still don't look like it qualifies for a TD IMO.....but NHC may upgrade anyway so warning can be issued considering that it is so close to land. Need more convection on the east side to upgrade.....MGC
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#2133 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:51 pm

tailgater wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:If it's moving WSW at 6 mph then it has more then enough time
to get it's act together before landfall.


Probably moving a bit faster than that, more 8-12ph. IMHO


It does look like its moving slower...

Also worth noting convection looks like its weakening on the SW side, so the NHC may hold back if that carries on and it looks to me like shear has increased again a little as the convection is starting to outrun the circulation.

However right now it probably is a TD and I agree Wxman57, despite the weakening convection, they probably should upgrade but I also agree, they won't go higher then 30kts IMO...
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#2134 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Stormcenter wrote:It looks like convection is starting to develop to the northeast of center.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12


I don't see any convection northeast of the center. Did you mean northwest?
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2135 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:53 pm

tailgater wrote:A couple of SFRM obs in the mid 30's range so I wouldn't be surprised to see a upgrade to at least TD status again. sure doesn't look like much ATTM.


they were all flagged.. so dont think they will use them..
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#2136 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:56 pm

I'm sorry......I meant to say to the NW.



wxman57 wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:It looks like convection is starting to develop to the northeast of center.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12


I don't see any convection northeast of the center. Did you mean northwest?
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#2137 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:57 pm

Regardless if this becomes a named storm, what a fun and interesting little system to watch for a couple weeks. Not very often we get to see one storm system, move inland, then re-emerge and gain TD status again, if this indeed is upgraded.
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2138 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:58 pm

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tailgater wrote:A couple of SFRM obs in the mid 30's range so I wouldn't be surprised to see a upgrade to at least TD status again. sure doesn't look like much ATTM.


they were all flagged.. so dont think they will use them..


well the next set just came in and there is 2 30kt sfmr so thats at least promising .. lol
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Re: ATL: EX-Tropical Depression FIVE - Discussion

#2139 Postby tailgater » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
tailgater wrote:A couple of SFRM obs in the mid 30's range so I wouldn't be surprised to see a upgrade to at least TD status again. sure doesn't look like much ATTM.


they were all flagged.. so dont think they will use them..

Check the ones next to the LLC to the SW.
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#2140 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:03 pm

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If they upgrade, a TS Warning would probably be needed from Pascagoula to Intracoastal City and a TS Watch might be considered from Intracoastal City to High Island - may need to be extended farther west later if the low center continues to go more southward.
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