ATL: Ex-Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1141 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:07 am

jconsor wrote:I will go on record as forecasting that Danielle will track at least a little SW of 30N 60W. The threat of a direct strike on Bermuda is still low,



How about further north? Skim the Maritimes, or miss them altogether?
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#1142 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:09 am

Looking at the trough it looks big enough to deflect the system eastwards before it gets to SE Canada at the moment, indeed the system may even bend back a little to the ESE if some of the models are right as it only just catches the upper trough connection....possibly could have an Azores risk if some of the models are right!
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#1143 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:10 am

Should get a visible shortly. About half of it appears now on the Atlantic Wide View.
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#1144 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:12 am

KWT wrote:Looking at the trough it looks big enough to deflect the system eastwards before it gets to SE Canada at the moment, indeed the system may even bend back a little to the ESE if some of the models are right as it only just catches the upper trough connection....possibly could have an Azores risk if some of the models are right!


So other than Bermuda, no land at risk?
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#1145 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:15 am

Probably yeah but may still be a little too early.

Anyway stil ldoesn't seem to be picking up a huge amount of latitude right now and certainly weaker probably down to 75-80kts right now IMO, dry air really hurting this one and looks like a weak upper level trough/low is coming down.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1146 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:59 am

ERC? Interesting - it seems that the inner eyewall has collapsed based on IR.

But, there appears to be a very weak and fluctuating outer ring that seems to be forming.

Since the core temp has increased by +1C since last night; I suspect that an ERC could in fact be the case.

The outer ring ring appears to be unusually wide in diameter.


http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... t24hrs.gif


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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1147 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:07 am

Sorry, meant to say Microwave not IR when referencing the MIMIC image.

Anyway, MIMIC-TPW seems to show that dry air in the boundary layer may be trying to enter the core.

This could account for the drop-off in eyewall convection.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... t72hrs.gif
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#1148 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:08 am

Are you aware that that first animation is a full 7 Meg and the second one is over 4 Meg?
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#1149 Postby cyclonic chronic » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:15 am

:uarrow: x2
i agree,seems like dry air intrusion. also in the formative stage yesterday, based on the above micro, it looks like Danielle's circ. center reformed several times. maybe thats why she didnt bomb-out. maybe once the dry air circulates out tonite or tommrow, we could see a major.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1150 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:17 am

Is there a restriction that I am not aware of?

If so, I'll be glad to post the URL and not paste as an image.
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#1151 Postby cyclonic chronic » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:19 am

:uarrow:
im thinking no. those were great pics.
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#1152 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:23 am

Not everybody has high speed broadband and those size images can cause problems for low speed or limited bandwidth users.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1153 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:25 am

Thanks.

Actually, I just noticed CIMSS has added IR and Microwave together now.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... t24hrs.gif
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1154 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:26 am

OK, understood. I'll post the URL only from now on - thanks.
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#1155 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:37 am

Looks like its gained a little bit of latitude recently according to that loop GCane after heading close to due west for a good 4-6hrs.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1156 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:46 am

Looking at CAPE imagery, stable air does seem to be entraining into the core.

However, as it continues NW, it looks like it could tap into air with CAPE values higher than it has seen so far.

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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1157 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:21 am

SAB Dvorak shows Danielle a little bit weaker.

24/1145 UTC 16.2N 45.5W T4.0/4.5 DANIELLE -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1158 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:29 am

to make your point GCANE, the 24 hour forecast

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#1159 Postby lester » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:44 am

I doubt this is experiencing ewrc's.

Probably some dry air.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1160 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:46 am

12z Best Track

AL, 06, 2010082412, , BEST, 0, 162N, 455W, 75, 983, HU

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest

Down to 75kts.
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