ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2241 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:15 pm

I'm NOT enjoying ts beauty
its a whole other thing when you have to live through it.


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We are all glad you made it through and even still have your internet!
If Earl had intensified into a cat 3 just a few hours earlier it would have been a disaster.
What are you hearing about winds and damage on St Maarten?
Luis is probably going out of his mind without power wondering if the storm is going to change course.
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#2242 Postby CourierPR » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:16 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:its gaining latitude for sure
In two previous posts you said it was riding 19 N heading west.
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#2243 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:18 pm

CourierPR wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:its gaining latitude for sure
In two previous posts you said it was riding 19 N heading west.



and since i have been staring at radar and it appears to be gaining latitude. Also if you look at the visible it road 19n for quite a while and recently junmped NNW My eyes are going whacky
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#2244 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:25 pm

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#2245 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:26 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

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you can see it right there, the jump I was talking about.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2246 Postby USTropics » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:27 pm

Systems generally do not traverse in a perfectly straight line, and "jogs" or "wobbles" encompass the overall path. Instead, an extrapolated motion is taken over a period of time (generally 3+ hours). While Earl did jog west momentarily, the overall movement has been 285 degrees, or WNW.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2247 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:29 pm

I am alive,safe and dry!!. Power was cut since around 10:15 AM until recently.But I can expect more power cuts tonight as the eye moves at its closest point from San Juan and tropical Storm force winds blow by then. After that big band this morning, less strong ones have moved thru but radar shows plenty of rain that will move in the next few hours. So I will be here as conditions permit to report.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2248 Postby UpTheCreek » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:29 pm

I don't know if I'm understanding this whole setup. Is it possible that the further west Earl moves and the longer it takes to head on a northbound track, the better it might be for the east coast? In other words, the longer Earl stays south, the longer time it's easterly component will have to travel southbound and intercept Earl before he's able to get near the coast? Or something, I don't know. I can't even read that back to myself without getting further confused, so hopefully someone can figure out what I'm trying to say! :double:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2249 Postby feederband » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:30 pm

USTropics wrote:Systems generally do not traverse in a perfectly straight line, and "jogs" or "wobbles" encompass the overall path. Instead, an extrapolated motion is taken over a period of time (generally 3+ hours). While Earl did jog west momentarily, the overall movement has been 285 degrees, or WNW.



Yeah I keep waiting for the next stair step...Hope it is soon... :eek:
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#2250 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:30 pm

Good to see you are ok luis.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2251 Postby UpTheCreek » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:31 pm

cycloneye wrote:I am alive,safe and dry!!. Power was cut since around 10:15 AM until recently.But I can expect more power cuts tonight as the eye moves at its closest point from San Juan and tropical Storm force winds blow by then. After that big band this morning, less strong ones have moved thru but radar shows plenty of rain that will move in the next few hours. So I will be here as conditions permit to report.



Glad to hear you're well!
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#2252 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:31 pm

Luis, good to hear from you! Stay safe.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2253 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:31 pm

cycloneye wrote:I am alive,safe and dry!!. Power was cut since around 10:15 AM until recently.But I can expect more power cuts tonight as the eye moves at its closest point from San Juan and tropical Storm force winds blow by then. After that big band this morning, less strong ones have moved thru but radar shows plenty of rain that will move in the next few hours. So I will be here as conditions permit to report.


Good to hear you are okay.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2254 Postby gpickett00 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:31 pm

USTropics wrote:Systems generally do not traverse in a perfectly straight line, and "jogs" or "wobbles" encompass the overall path. Instead, an extrapolated motion is taken over a period of time (generally 3+ hours). While Earl did jog west momentarily, the overall movement has been 285 degrees, or WNW.


So true, it's easy to get caught up in looking at every single satellite refresh image and convince yourself that the system is taking a whole new direction. Then a couple images later its confirmed that the storm has been maintaining the exact direction that the models predicted
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2255 Postby HurrMark » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:32 pm

UpTheCreek wrote:I don't know if I'm understanding this whole setup. Is it possible that the further west Earl moves and the longer it takes to head on a northbound track, the better it might be for the east coast? In other words, the longer Earl stays south, the longer time it's easterly component will have to travel southbound and intercept Earl before he's able to get near the coast? Or something, I don't know. I can't even read that back to myself without getting further confused, so hopefully someone can figure out what I'm trying to say! :double:


It's really geography. The further west it goes, the more likely it will go south the Outer Banks, which bulges out. A more northwesterly track will take it closer to the coast. It will get shunted out by the upcoming trough, so whether it does it at 33 N or 35 N or 38 N makes a big difference in terms of who gets what.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2256 Postby ColinDelia » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:35 pm

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc1 ... atest.html

For many of you wondering ...
This map has the closest distance the eye of Earl will come to many locations if it follows the exact expected track.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2257 Postby UpTheCreek » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:37 pm

HurrMark wrote:
UpTheCreek wrote:I don't know if I'm understanding this whole setup. Is it possible that the further west Earl moves and the longer it takes to head on a northbound track, the better it might be for the east coast? In other words, the longer Earl stays south, the longer time it's easterly component will have to travel southbound and intercept Earl before he's able to get near the coast? Or something, I don't know. I can't even read that back to myself without getting further confused, so hopefully someone can figure out what I'm trying to say! :double:


It's really geography. The further west it goes, the more likely it will go south the Outer Banks, which bulges out. A more northwesterly track will take it closer to the coast. It will get shunted out by the upcoming trough, so whether it does it at 33 N or 35 N or 38 N makes a big difference in terms of who gets what.


I think I get that, but that upcoming trough will be moving S or SE. So if Earl gives it more time to get more south before getting hit by it, then Earl will be even further away from the coast when it recurves eastward. I'm probably not making myself clear because I'm not using the proper jargon.
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#2258 Postby KBBOCA » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:46 pm

Question: Did Earl officially landfall anywhere in the Islands? It looked to me like the eyewall brushed Anguilla, but I'm guessing that doesn't count. What about Sombrero Island which looked to be right in the center of the eye? (That's unpopulated I believe?).
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#2259 Postby breaking wind » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:48 pm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane EARL - Discussion

#2260 Postby bzukajo » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:55 pm

The 5:00 Runs came in as the WHDH met was doing a live broadcast. "is this a cat 4 just off the coast of NC!?" I think he had a pucker moment on live TV :lol:
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