ATL: Ex-Tropical Storm GASTON - Discussion

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#441 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:31 am

KWT wrote:That is not a good presentation with regards to the SAL/WV...notice how the core convection is right up close to the dry air...if you want to see a stronger system normally there'd be a shield of moisture to the north of the center like you can see with the wave behind Gaston.

That being said the models do seem keen on keeping this one weak, so the NHC may have to lower thier forecasts for strength...but as we saw with Earl it certainly doesn't preclude a powerful hurricane down the line...

Also thats a strong upper high feature there, probably not going to gain much latitude till 55-60W.


If Gaston does survive KWT, this can be really bad news for the Carib down the road, because we know what they say about weak storms at this location and the direction they generally move.....Regardless, it's looking more and more like a carib hit. Even more so than yesterday, based upon the model runs and strength
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#442 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:44 am

NHC gives stronger life to Gaston.

48HR VT 04/1200Z 14.7N 43.3W 50 KT
72HR VT 05/1200Z 15.0N 46.5W 60 KT
96HR VT 06/1200Z 15.5N 51.0W 70 KT
120HR VT 07/1200Z 16.0N 56.0W 85 KT



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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm GASTON - Discussion

#443 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:45 am

Gaston just may be "gast-gone"! There looks to be very little left of him right now anyway. It's amazing how quickly things can change, which of course makes the argument that he can resurrect himself just as quickly as he apparently has dimenished.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm GASTON - Discussion

#444 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:51 am

otowntiger wrote:Gaton just may be "gast-gone"! There looks to be very little left of him right now anyway. It's amazing how quickly things can change, which of course makes the argument that he can resurrect himself just as quickly as he apparently has dimenished.



Well, we better hope so, because it doesn't look like there's any possible way that this avoids the carib when you look at the forecasted track.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#445 Postby SoupBone » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:17 am

Link to the latest visible of Gaston?
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#446 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:20 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-vis.html


SoupBone wrote:Link to the latest visible of Gaston?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#447 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:25 am

I think Gaston is hibernating right now. I don't think he's going to just fade away that quickly as long as the structure remains impressive. I could definitely see this one rapidly developing as it gets much further west, which is not a good thing.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#448 Postby Duke95 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:29 am

When you say the structure remains impressive, to what are you referring?

To this noob, the structure doesn't look impressive.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#449 Postby ROCK » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:35 am

Duke95 wrote:When you say the structure remains impressive, to what are you referring?

To this noob, the structure doesn't look impressive.


cyclonic turning...it has a low level circulation but the subsidence to the north keeps drying it up....patience grasshopper.. :lol:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#450 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:42 am

ROCK wrote:
Duke95 wrote:When you say the structure remains impressive, to what are you referring?

To this noob, the structure doesn't look impressive.


cyclonic turning...it has a low level circulation but the subsidence to the north keeps drying it up....patience grasshopper.. :lol:


Looks like convection will be on the increase this afternoon and eveing.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/flash-rgb.html
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#451 Postby ColinDelia » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:52 am

The dryest air has wrapped around the west side of the circulation some. (KWT mentioned this too)

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One would think it would be very difficult to predict the future of that - in the short to medium term anyway. Does it keep pushing west or pull back?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#452 Postby TheBurn » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:51 am

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#453 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:57 am

Gaston certainly stands the chance to effect many people..It’s looking increasingly likely that the Windward/Leeward islands are going to be effected by this storm. We now have several runs indicating a direct hit in the same general region. PR also is coming under the gun…As is usual how the trough/ridge set up will be critical in the long term for the US. The best analog cyclones to match the GFS seem to be Cleo/David…Not as much where they hit long term but the pattern.
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#454 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:04 pm

I agree Vortex, the chance of this being a fish is diminishing as we speak...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#455 Postby Duke95 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:06 pm

ROCK wrote:
Duke95 wrote:When you say the structure remains impressive, to what are you referring?

To this noob, the structure doesn't look impressive.


cyclonic turning...it has a low level circulation but the subsidence to the north keeps drying it up....patience grasshopper.. :lol:


Patience for what? This thing developing is not something that makes me, or should make anyone else, happy.

I don't understand how the "cyclonic turning" in this case can be termed impressive. If you can state specifics regarding why it is impressive, I would be interested to hear them.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#456 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:07 pm

It has a lot of work to go to regain Tropical Storm status.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#457 Postby OURAGAN » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:13 pm

Yes, and the center looks to be At 13,5N and not at 14N like the 11am Position
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm GASTON - Discussion

#458 Postby StormClouds63 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:25 pm

otowntiger wrote:Gaston just may be "gast-gone"! There looks to be very little left of him right now anyway. It's amazing how quickly things can change, which of course makes the argument that he can resurrect himself just as quickly as he apparently has dimenished.


Even if Gaston doesn't re-develop, the next system exiting Africa is even farther south and, at least for now, looks mighty impressive.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#459 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:29 pm

Duke,

Well, it's "impressive" enough to keep it from being labeled as a wave. I think that's what he meant.
If the circulation wasn't impressive enough to keep it as a depression, then they would have renamed it
back to wave status....
It doesn't matter what it's doing now anyway, as it doesn't suppose to do much right now anyway.
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#460 Postby StormClouds63 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:39 pm

Favorable MJO appears to be on the way:

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MJO does generally move west to east, right?

Any ideas on what impact this would have on Gaston (or future Hermine) if they can survive the unfavorable environment currently in Atlantic?
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