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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1121 Postby expat2carib » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:06 pm

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plasticup wrote:I don't understand what people are so worked up about. Yes, it traveled west all day, but it wasn't supposed to turn until tonight. The synoptics are verifying and the storm is on track.
Yep. There has been no marked change in the synoptic setup to suggest that the turn will not occur. As a matter of fact, looking at the latest loops, it seems that turn may have already begun but I will need to see more frames to confirm that it’s not just a wobble.

Presently, assuming the official 5 pm track verifies, the closest Igor’s eye will get to any of the islands in the archipelago is 432.6 miles. That’s pretty far, even for a large system like Igor. Rough and dangerous surf should be our main focus. Of course, this is not to say that the Leewards shouldn’t monitor the situation at all. That would be foolhardy. After all, this is weather we are discussing — the quintessential inexact science.

At this juncture, the only place that really needs to be concerned is Bermuda. From the looks of things, it’s gonna be a rough Saturday night there!

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It irritates me that my brain can not compete with 15+ data centers with only a few thousand servers the models use. It's irritating :lol:

Some chess player managed to beat the machines. :lol:
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#1122 Postby artist » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:08 pm

to understand peoples concern just go read these advisories for Earl -
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=109140&hilit=ATL%3A+Earl

As you will see, Earl continued west longer than originally forecast and as we know he ended up brushing some of the islands. Until this is safely on his way north I can understand the angst anyone might feel. To see Igor continue on a more westerly path longer than originally forecast, even if just for a few hours, can bring concern to those that experienced Earl.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1123 Postby plasticup » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:11 pm

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plasticup wrote:I don't understand what people are so worked up about. Yes, it traveled west all day, but it wasn't supposed to turn until tonight. The synoptics are verifying and the storm is on track.

i have to disagree with it being on track, it should of had a northerly component all day and should be above 18.2 N now.
i expect a wnw turn but i have my doubts it will be as sharp as the track suggests. i almost hope for more west movement i think the only way bermuda is safe is if igor goes more west.

It is still moving well within the cone. Missing the 6 hour check-points by 10-20 miles isn't off track; that won't have a significant effect on its course.
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#1124 Postby Gustywind » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:19 pm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1125 Postby expat2carib » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:23 pm

:uarrow: Big Igor. Small, small islands. :double:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1126 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:27 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-rb.html



expat2carib wrote::uarrow: Big Igor. Small, small islands. :double:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1127 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:28 pm

expat2carib wrote::uarrow: Big Igor. Small, small islands. :double:


We got lucky that it moved NW near the CV islands,because if it would have moved westward all the way,and be around 13N-51W,you know the rest.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1128 Postby expat2carib » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:29 pm

hurricanefloyd5 wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-rb.html



expat2carib wrote::uarrow: Big Igor. Small, small islands. :double:


:eek:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1129 Postby Tom8 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:35 pm

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#1130 Postby artist » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:37 pm

here are the forecast points from the 11 pm advisory on Sat., the 11th.-

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 12/0300Z 17.7N 42.5W 65 KT
12HR VT 12/1200Z 17.8N 44.8W 75 KT
24HR VT 13/0000Z 17.9N 47.4W 80 KT
36HR VT 13/1200Z 18.1N 49.7W 90 KT
48HR VT 14/0000Z 18.4N 51.9W 100 KT
72HR VT 15/0000Z 19.5N 55.0W 110 KT
96HR VT 16/0000Z 21.5N 58.0W 115 KT
120HR VT 17/0000Z 23.5N 61.0W 115 KT

here are the forecast points from the 5pm today, Sept. 13th-

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 13/2100Z 17.7N 50.5W 130 KT
12HR VT 14/0600Z 18.1N 51.7W 130 KT
24HR VT 14/1800Z 18.9N 53.2W 130 KT
36HR VT 15/0600Z 20.0N 54.7W 130 KT
48HR VT 15/1800Z 21.1N 56.1W 130 KT
72HR VT 16/1800Z 23.5N 58.5W 120 KT
96HR VT 17/1800Z 26.5N 61.5W 110 KT
120HR VT 18/1800Z 30.0N 64.0W 105 KT

tonight at 11, if indeed Igor had been following the forecast points issued on Sat. night at 11, then he would then be at -
48HR VT 14/0000Z 18.4N 51.9W 100 KT
At 5pm today he was located at-
INITIAL 13/2100Z 17.7N 50.5W 130 KT

The NHC has had to move their points further south than originally forecast as well as east.
He has obviously moved slower than originally forecast. Let's hope that his being further east than originally forecast for this time will give him the time he needs to gain the latitude we want to see as well.
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#1131 Postby fasterdisaster » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:39 pm

I wish we had some recon out there, this could very well be a Category 5 IMO.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1132 Postby Gustywind » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:43 pm

cycloneye wrote:
expat2carib wrote::uarrow: Big Igor. Small, small islands. :double:


We got lucky that it moved NW near the CV islands,because if it would have moved westward all the way,and be around 13N-51W,you know the rest.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Absolutely Luis, I was wondering the same thing and that's really impressive to see how blessed and lucky we are!!! Let's continue to keep our fingers crossed hoping for the best and especially for this NW TURN.
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#1133 Postby cpdaman » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:43 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:I wish we had some recon out there, this could very well be a Category 5 IMO.


looks like a cat 4 to me...in fact i would think it's 140-145 by looking at it....
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1134 Postby jabman98 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:44 pm

Tom8 wrote:pictures

Wow. Those are some amazing photos. He's a beast. I really hope he stays at sea. Gorgeous to look at, though.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1135 Postby Tom8 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:44 pm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1136 Postby Tom8 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:54 pm

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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1137 Postby TheBurn » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:56 pm

Igor and Julia

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#1138 Postby fasterdisaster » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:01 pm

cpdaman wrote:
fasterdisaster wrote:I wish we had some recon out there, this could very well be a Category 5 IMO.


looks like a cat 4 to me...in fact i would think it's 140-145 by looking at it....


He's probably not Cat 5, I'm just saying it's possible. I definitely think he's at least 150 though.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#1139 Postby Tom8 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:09 pm

GOES-15 vis. images of eye of Hurricane Igor (SRSO 1-minute images begin at 16:39 UTC) about 6 hours ago

via TweetDeck

BIG' file
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/wp ... s_anim.gif

NOAA visualization

http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/MediaDetail.ph ... iaTypeID=1
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#1140 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:10 pm

Yeah clearly a more north of west motion, how anyone can deny that on this loop is beyond me, esp in the last few hours of the loop:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html

That being said its clearly not lifting out too much right now and its still would be described as a westward motion for now...
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