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#81 Postby Gustywind » Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:25 am

From Crown Weather
:rarrow: http://www.crownweather.com/?page_id=325
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Issued: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 620 am EDT/520 am CDT

Long Range Tropical Trouble Possible:
I am also monitoring a couple of disturbances that may go ahead and develop between the coast of Africa and the Lesser Antilles. The first disturbance is now just coming off of the coast of Africa with a second disturbance now over west-central Africa that should emerge in the eastern Atlantic later this week. The overall pattern starting next week will become somewhat different as there is forecast to be a much stronger high pressure ridge that builds much further west. So, any systems coming off of Africa will have the opportunity to track all the way westward into the Caribbean and potentially the Gulf of Mexico.

The GFS model has been quite consistent in forecasting that either a piece of the disturbance near the west coast of Africa or a piece of energy from the Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone will break off and try and develop in the central and western Caribbean in about 7 to 10 days from now. Other model guidance like the European model forecast that the development will occur much further east about halfway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles in 9 to 10 days from now.

So which scenario is more realistic?? Well, given the fact that during the second half of September, it becomes more unlikely that development will occur well east of the Lesser Antilles and development occurs further west like the GFS model forecasts. In addition, the ocean heat content between the coast of Africa and the Lesser Antilles is lower now because of upwelling caused by Earl and now Igor and ocean waters in the Caribbean have been virtually untouched. So, I am leaning closer to the idea of a slow developing low riding system that will have to be closely watched over the next week or two in case it does make it into the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico.

The next tropical weather discussion will be issued by 7 am EDT/6 am CDT Wednesday morning.

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#82 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:44 am

cycloneye wrote:ColinDelia, how does it look now on the vorticity front?


Looks similar to yesterday.

There are still two pools of vorticity, one at 11N, one at 6N. Neither one of them particularly strong.
No vorticity of 50 units or higher.

The 6z GFS keeps those two pools entangled and eventually breaks them up into separate systems.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation

Is this a believable solution in any way? Maybe it has something to do with an interaction with the ITCZ.
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#83 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:35 am

06 GFS

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#84 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:39 am

classic late september/October pattern....The trend since last friday is to move a system through the carribean with varying intensities/final destinations...The question is will it be something that breaks off the ITCZ around 50W or be the system emerging off africa today..or both...
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#85 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:59 am

UKMET on it

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#86 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:07 am

Here's the ukmet loop...generally westbound with strong ridging building North....based on guidance it appears we should see some development of the wave emerging off africa today ...something to watch for sure..


loop:


http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... tLoop.html
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#87 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:43 am

Very interesting article via chron.com this morning...

http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/ ... lf_of.html
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#88 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:28 am

again, finally a storm that may not recurve and go fish...
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#89 Postby Macrocane » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:37 am

finally? Alex, Bonnie, Earl and Hermine did affect land.
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#90 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:43 am

Pattern change showing up in the models leading to a much higher risk for Florida and the Gulf coast.

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#91 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:45 am

Macrocane wrote:finally? Alex, Bonnie, Earl and Hermine did affect land.



Uhhh I'm talking about the potential of a direct hit and also talking about a long tracking CV system...
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#92 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:15 am

12Z GFS rolling in 15 min...
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#93 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:57 am

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#94 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:13 am

108 hours

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#95 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:30 am

So much for that caribbean cruiser...12z GFS turns this out to sea pretty quickly.
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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#96 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:35 am

SFLcane wrote:So much for that caribbean cruiser...GFS turns this out to sea pretty quickly.


The Caribbean Cruiser is in the Caribbean at 180 hours in a weak state. The one turned out to sea (oddly) is a second system

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#97 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:38 am

And there He/she is

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#98 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:39 am

276 hours

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#99 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:40 am

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Re: GFS long range - PGI45L eventually to Caribbean&Gulf

#100 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:43 am

Right up the entire west coast of Florida

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