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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1681 Postby sfwx » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:58 pm

15 day forecast for Port St. Lucie: :D
http://www.accuweather.com/us/fl/port-s ... sp?fday=14



October 1
ENE at 29 mph
Gusts: 58 mph
Very windy; humid with rain


Amount of Rain: 1.55 in
Hours of Precipitation: 10 hrs
Hours of Rain: 10 hrs

Night

N at 19 mph
Gusts: 54 mph
Considerable cloudiness and humid with showers and thunderstorms

Max UV Index: N/A
Thunderstorm Probability: 60%
Amount of Precipitation: 1.55 in
Amount of Rain: 1.55 in
Amount of Snow: 0.0 in
Amount of Ice: 0.00 in
Hours of Precipitation: 10 hrs
Hours of Rain: 10 hrs




October 2

W at 19 mph
Gusts: 47 mph
Windy and humid with rain
Amount of Rain: 1.33 in
Hours of Precipitation: 10 hrs
Hours of Rain: 10 hrs

Night

WSW at 29 mph
Gusts: 54 mph
Very windy; periods of rain
Hours of Precipitation: 3 hrs
Hours of Rain: 3 hrs
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1682 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:42 pm

Regardless what the computer models predict 16 days off, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean is now the hotbed for tropical development. No one should let their guards down. Something tells me we may a get a hurricane in Texas in the next month.

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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1683 Postby LaBreeze » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:22 am

Ptarmigan wrote:Regardless what the computer models predict 16 days off, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean is now the hotbed for tropical development. No one should let their guards down. Something tells me we may a get a hurricane in Texas in the next month.

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Why Texas?
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1684 Postby AussieMark » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:06 am

I know its 300 hrs out but GFS has been on this one for a few days now

This is 00Z run at 288 hrs
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1685 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:52 am

AussieMark wrote:I know its 300 hrs out but GFS has been on this one for a few days now

This is 00Z run at 288 hrs
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1686 Postby flwxwatcher » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:47 pm

The EURO and the GFS are both on board for a NW Caribbean system in the longer range. It will be interesting to see how the pattern sets up in the longer range as far as the possible steering currents for this system.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1687 Postby ROCK » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:26 pm

flwxwatcher wrote:The EURO and the GFS are both on board for a NW Caribbean system in the longer range. It will be interesting to see how the pattern sets up in the longer range as far as the possible steering currents for this system.




The EURO though not showing a BOC burial from the 0z todays 12z shows a very broad low over the entire SGOM.....plus long range 240HR....not one model is good at that range in predicting steering layers....
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1688 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:16 pm

LaBreeze wrote:
Why Texas?


A poor choice word on my part. I should of said all of the landmass regardless is at risk. :oops:

From what I have noticed, a good number of computer models are predicting a strong hurricane in the next 2 weeks. Like I said before, the Caribbean and Gulf is where tropical activity will likely happen. If it had a name, it would either be Matthew, Nicole, or Otto. Invest 94L is getting better organized, which would make it Lisa.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1689 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:20 pm

ROCK wrote:
The EURO though not showing a BOC burial from the 0z todays 12z shows a very broad low over the entire SGOM.....plus long range 240HR....not one model is good at that range in predicting steering layers....


I know those computer models are days off, but in the past I remember, they have gotten it right. I believe the computers were close with Dean in 2007 and Ike in 2008.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1690 Postby ROCK » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:15 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
ROCK wrote:
The EURO though not showing a BOC burial from the 0z todays 12z shows a very broad low over the entire SGOM.....plus long range 240HR....not one model is good at that range in predicting steering layers....


I know those computer models are days off, but in the past I remember, they have gotten it right. I believe the computers were close with Dean in 2007 and Ike in 2008.


ECM nailed IKE about 196hr out while every other model was shooting this up the spine of FL....still though 240hr is too far in the future for any of these models.....IMO.....tonights 0z ECM will help...
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1691 Postby LaBreeze » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:34 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
LaBreeze wrote:
Why Texas?


A poor choice word on my part. I should of said all of the landmass regardless is at risk. :oops:

From what I have noticed, a good number of computer models are predicting a strong hurricane in the next 2 weeks. Like I said before, the Caribbean and Gulf is where tropical activity will likely happen. If it had a name, it would either be Matthew, Nicole, or Otto. Invest 94L is getting better organized, which would make it Lisa.


Not a problem, I was just unsure - I thought that maybe you were on to something that I had not seen or read yet. :sun:
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1692 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:43 pm

ROCK wrote:
ECM nailed IKE about 196hr out while every other model was shooting this up the spine of FL....still though 240hr is too far in the future for any of these models.....IMO.....tonights 0z ECM will help...


I remember seeing the ECM about 10 days before Ike. Only thing if I recall was that hit had it hitting Louisiana. I am sure someone has it as of today. Since all these computer models I have seen lately here seem to be consistent of a hurricane development does make me somewhat more concerned than usual. Normally, I do not put stock on computer models that far, but if they are consistent about it that could be something to not be dismissive about.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1693 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:54 am

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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1695 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:57 am

NOGAPS and CMC are similar to the GFS in the short term.....lets see if it burys it into MX
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1696 Postby StormClouds63 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:21 pm

MJO now in favorable phase (9/19/10):

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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1697 Postby BigA » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:24 pm

What is the NOGAPS forming on the eastern seaboard near the end of the run? Is it purely extratropical, or maybe subtropical?
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1698 Postby CourierPR » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:31 pm

ROCK wrote:NOGAPS and CMC are similar to the GFS in the short term.....lets see if it burys it into MX
Looks like that 120 NOGAPS has a Wilma type track.
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1699 Postby CourierPR » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:33 pm

BigA wrote:What is the NOGAPS forming on the eastern seaboard near the end of the run? Is it purely extratropical, or maybe subtropical?
Isn't that the Caribbean system after it crosses S FL peninsula?
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Re: Long / Medium Range Model Runs

#1700 Postby caneseddy » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:44 pm

CourierPR wrote:
BigA wrote:What is the NOGAPS forming on the eastern seaboard near the end of the run? Is it purely extratropical, or maybe subtropical?
Isn't that the Caribbean system after it crosses S FL peninsula?


No, that is actually a system forming off the Carolinas from a trough moving along the EC

The Caribbean system is the one south of Cuba heading towards Florida
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