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#701 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:13 pm

Headed for south florida yet again.....there is some shear but we all know what happened with Wilma which was supposed to get sheared. :roll:
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#702 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:13 pm

H102 moving over keys...looks to fast..will leave another peice of energy behind and spawn another cyclone is my hunch...



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#703 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:14 pm

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#704 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:15 pm

Vortex wrote:H102 moving over keys...looks to fast..will leave another peice of energy behind and spawn another cyclone is my hunch...
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_102l.gif

Wasn't it doing that before?
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#705 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:15 pm

Shear is ripping across S Florida..starting to get consistency in models showing a strung out low pressure getting torn apart. The news is getting better

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#706 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:15 pm

gatorcane wrote:Headed for south florida yet again.....there is some shear but we all know what happened with Wilma which was supposed to get sheared. :roll:


Indeed...Hopefully this turns to be a windy/rainy event. I'am afraid the flooding potential around metro dade/broward counties good get quite serious.
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#707 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:16 pm

this would produce a serious flood event, and possibly quite a tornado outbreak on the east side looking at the shear values...

Im not sold on it moving out of the carribean this quickly...This is the biggest problem with models is wantin to move it out to quickly..
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#708 Postby Wthrman13 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:17 pm

I've labelled the 6-Day Pressure forecasts, in millibars, for each of the 5 different models, with your C-Gem the lowest, (most developed), pressure of 992 mb; & your UKM, (the least developed), & the highest pressure of 1003 mb over the Central Gulf of Mexico. So there you see....anywhere's from a low-end tropical storm to a high-end tropical storm, coming from the pressure output in the models' grid domains.


I just wanted to point out that most of the global models have a resolution too coarse to properly resolve a tropical cyclone's inner core, and so will almost always have a central pressure that is too high, even for what is otherwise a well-developed TC in the model. This is a general rule of thumb. However, the ECMWF is getting close, and if I remember with Earl, several runs had a forecasted central pressure that was much lower than the real storm attained (something like 905 mb).

Otherwise, this storm-to-be is going to be an absolutely fascinating one to watch from a meteorological perspective. And make no mistake, something is going to come out of this: you don't get this kind of model consistency and agreement without something happening. Whether it is some sort of subtropical system that transitions to pure tropical, or the reverse, it is going to be pretty interesting.
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#709 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:18 pm

*if* this type of sceanrio played out youd have 35-50 mph winds across a wide region, flood event, and high tornado threat with the high shear values...
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#710 Postby srainhoutx » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:18 pm

Vortex wrote:this would produce a serious flood event, and possibly quite a tornado outbreak on the east side looking at the shear values...

Im not sold on it moving out of the carribean this quickly...This is the biggest problem with models is wantin to move it out to quickly..



The Upper Low has been the key to moving this out of the Caribbean. Keep an eye on that feature...

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#711 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:19 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Shear is ripping across S Florida..starting to get consistency in models showing a strung out low pressure getting torn apart. The news is getting


Perhaps ivanhater but I'm sure the charts were similar for Wilma and look what happened.....

Still the euro is showing something similar. Right now my best guess would be a sheared messy tropical storm with a lot of rain and some wind for somebody in Florida.
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#712 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:20 pm

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Re: Hurricane possible NW carribean next week...

#713 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:20 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Shear is ripping across S Florida..starting to get consistency in models showing a strung out low pressure getting torn apart. The news is getting


Perhaps ivanhater but I'm sure the charts were similar for Wilma and look what happened.....

Still the euro is showing something similar. Right now my best guess would be a sheared messy tropical storm with a lot of rain and some wind for somebody in Florida.


That's a good bet..I still think a big one will come out of the Caribbean, but I don't think this is the one yet.
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#714 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:21 pm

If this plays out this way, id almost gurantee you in early october that another system forms on the tail end...
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#715 Postby srainhoutx » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:24 pm

Vortex wrote:If this plays out this way, id almost gurantee you in early october that another system forms on the tail end...


All systems look go for the next couple of weeks. Favorable MJO pulse, strongest of the season mind you. A gyre across the CA region that shows no sign of stopping. I'd keep an eye on it !
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#716 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:24 pm

That would be very bad news... after the major trough pulls out.
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#717 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:25 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Shear is ripping across S Florida..starting to get consistency in models showing a strung out low pressure getting torn apart. The news is getting


Perhaps ivanhater but I'm sure the charts were similar for Wilma and look what happened.....

Still the euro is showing something similar. Right now my best guess would be a sheared messy tropical storm with a lot of rain and some wind for somebody in Florida.


That's a good bet..I still think a big one will come out of the Caribbean, but I don't think this is the one yet.


Ivan,I dont know if you saw this earlier,but the predict team labled this as the "Big One".

http://www.met.nps.edu/~mtmontgo/storms2010.html
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#718 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:27 pm

ECMWF/GFS seem to have come into some agreement that upper conditions aren't going to be to friendly for this tropical low. May turn out to be just a rain maker for florida.
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#719 Postby dwsqos2 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:28 pm

Each successive run of the gfs has been weaker and weaker. I am sensing another dud.

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#720 Postby Vortex » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:29 pm

and here comes otto into sfl next weekend....




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