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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#241 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:11 am

Pretty good surface convergence at 14N 62W




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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#242 Postby Gustywind » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:23 am

HUC wrote:I think that something is trying to form; i don't know exactly where, but that remember me a lot the situation in october 1970 when a huge TD cross very slowly the Eastern Carribean!!! You remember abajan?
Here in the SO tip of Guadeloupe, overcast, heavy showers time to time that came from the SOuest,which is unusual.The ground wind is calm, or from the SSO 3 to 5 kh.After a reading of 1008mb early this morning, my barograf rise to 1011mb, buty steady now..Multiple small vortex ???
And the big cloud mass just east of the islands is to watch carefuly.
IMO, a TD may form any where inthe East carribean chain..Just an amateur opinion..
STAY TUNED

Thanks HUC for this post, we appreciate us in the Leewards and you're maybe right. No wind in my location. We should stay on our guard for sure! This huge bulk of very heavy convection east of the islands could bring quickly juicy amounts of water and tstorms if it continues to travel towards us :double: Let's wait and see.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#243 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:28 am

High rain-rate cell SE of PR



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#244 Postby Gustywind » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:34 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#245 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:58 am

This web cam is in Guadeloupe.

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And this cam is at ST Maarteen.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#246 Postby abajan » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:16 am

HUC wrote:... but that remember me a lot the situation in october 1970 when a huge TD cross very slowly the Eastern Carribean!!! You remember abajan? ...
Yes, I do. Of course, Guadeloupe had a record breaking cloudburst the following month of the same year when 38.1 mm (1.5 inches) of rain fell in just 1 minute! :eek:
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#247 Postby Gustywind » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:28 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#248 Postby Sanibel » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:59 am

Appears to be a west wind in the cloud motion on the south side.
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#249 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:02 pm

Amazing...and as the models showed today seems to be alot more favorable for convection to fire as both areas of interest are improving in organization. We need to see the vorticity relocate though...

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#250 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:48 pm

731
ABNT20 KNHC 031744
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN OCT 3 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY REMAINS DISORGANIZED IN ASSOCIATION
WITH AN ELONGATED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE THAT EXTENDS FROM THE
NORTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA ACROSS THE LEEWARD ISLANDS AND INTO THE
ADJACENT ATLANTIC WATERS. ANY DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE SLOW TO OCCUR
DUE TO UNFAVORABLE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS...AND THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...
10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD OR WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND
10 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE
POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS... THE
VIRGIN ISLANDS...AND PUERTO RICO.


A SMALL AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER LOCATED ABOUT 1300 MILES
EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED TO BE SLOW TO OCCUR AS IT MOVES NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15
MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
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#251 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:50 pm

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#252 Postby Cyclone1 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:51 pm

Looking better than 10% in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#253 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:04 pm

AL, 97, 2010100318, , BEST, 0, 178N, 598W, 25, 1007, DB

slowing down to a crawl
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#254 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:57 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#255 Postby Macrocane » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:00 pm

:uarrow: Now I can see why only 10% chance of development.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#256 Postby HUC » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:59 pm

abajan,i know this "record", but i don't know any station in Guadeloupe named "Barot"!!! And this november day in 1970,there was no observation of such a rain event...Si this is very caution....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#257 Postby Macrocane » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:13 pm

According to wikipedia the Barot record was in India:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudburst
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#258 Postby HUC » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:45 pm

Thanks macrocane. So you canfirmed that.
But in terms of record rain,here in Guadeloupe,hurricane Marylin in 1995 gave 500mm in 24 hours not si far of my location in the city of "Bouillante".
Don't think the present disturbance will give all these amounts...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#259 Postby expat2carib » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:55 pm

The Barot record.

A pregnant monsoon cloud? What/who did the monsoon pair with? How can a monsoon cloud get pregnant? :eek: Who pays the Child support? :lol:


http://www.weathernotebook.org/transcripts/2001/09/05.html

A cloudburst occurs when a pregnant monsoon cloud drifts northwards, from the Bay of Bengal across the Ganges plains, then onto the Himalayas and bursts, bringing rainfall as high as 75 millimeters per hour.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - (Code Yellow)

#260 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:40 pm

Up to 20%

A BROAD AND ELONGATED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS LOCATED OVER THE
NORTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA AND EXTENDS NORTHWARD INTO THE ADJACENT
ATLANTIC WATERS. SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH
THIS SYSTEM REMAINS DISORGANIZED. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED
TO CONTINUE TO BE UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT DAY
OR TWO...ALTHOUGH THEY MAY BECOME MORE FAVORABLE BY WEDNESDAY.
THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD OR
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND 10 MPH. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE
POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO OVER THE LEEWARD ISLANDS...THE
VIRGIN ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...AND HISPANIOLA.


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