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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#241 Postby Sanibel » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:58 am

Well it hasn't developed "fast" but does look to be slowly developing. I think the Jamaica flare-up is the linear trough 98L is connected to reacting to tropical flow being piled up behind it by the tropical airmass the front has compacted in the Caribbean. SST's should make this a done deal soon.
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#242 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:00 am

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The center is very easily to see
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#243 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:01 am

I do have to wonder if Belize or the Yucatan may see 98L impacts. Seeing the slow development and rather slow movement almost bring back memories of Matthew. What is interesting is seeing the moisture finally beginning to lift N out of the Caribbean. I still think this has some chance at development, just not as fast as some may think.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#244 Postby Sanibel » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:03 am

It does look stationary, which should give the steering currents to its north time to change.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#245 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:04 am

There are two sides in the discussions about 98L,the developing camp and the none developing camp, and that is very good it is happening to have diverse opinions without having heated exchanges. Keep it going peeps. :)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#246 Postby Sanibel » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:11 am

It almost looks like the system is sheared from the SE by the tropical easterlies.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#247 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:14 am

Here is todays TCPOD and it looks like distint from the models,the squadron is very interested in the system. The first (Tentative) mission will be on Monday afternoon.

NOUS42 KNHC 101500
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1100 AM EDT SUN 10 OCTOBER 2010
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 11/1100Z TO 12/1100Z OCTOBER 2010
TCPOD NUMBER.....10-131

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT SYSTEM (WESTERN CARIBBEAN)
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 11/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01HHA INVEST
C. 11/1400Z
D. 14.5N 82.5W
E. 11/1730Z TO 11/2130Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 12/0600Z
B. AFXXX 0218A CYCLONE
C. 12/0200Z
D. 16.0N 83.5W
E. 12/0500Z TO 12/0900Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 12-HRLY FIXES IF
SYSTEM DEVELOPS.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPRPD.shtml?

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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#248 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:35 am

TAFB Surface Analysis.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#249 Postby jconsor » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:58 am

Hi-res visible loops show a small circulation west of Jamaica near 17N 81W (on the western edge of the northernmost blob of convection). Low-level convergence is stronger near this circulation than off the Nicaragua coast where the main circulation is. This may be the first stage in the process of the elongated center reforming to the north like all global models have been showing.
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#250 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:14 am

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the circulation to the south is the strongest at the moment
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#251 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:21 pm

The latest at 16:45z.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#252 Postby Macrocane » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:25 pm

This is a very hard system to forecast, it has no model support but it sure looks good and I wonder why the models are not doing much with it, conditions are not that bad if it stays south of 18 north.
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#253 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:25 pm

Looking at the latest loops, the circulation is very well-defined
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#254 Postby Sanibel » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:32 pm

The center usually defaults to the northern circulation. Interesting to see which will win.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#255 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:32 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN OCT 10 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER HAS ISSUED THE FINAL ADVISORY ON
POST-TROPICAL STORM OTTO...LOCATED ABOUT 650 MILES WEST OF THE
AZORES.

AN ELONGATED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 180 MILES EAST OF
THE COAST OF NICARAGUA CONTINUES TO PRODUCE SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM
ACTIVITY. CONDITIONS APPEAR SOMEWHAT CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION TO FORM DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO...AND THERE IS A HIGH
CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IN THE NEXT 48
HOURS AS THE SYSTEM MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OR NORTHWESTWARD AT 5
TO 10 MPH. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS OVER PORTIONS OF NICARAGUA AND
HONDURAS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#256 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:37 pm

ASCAT certainly suggests this is a TD now IMO.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#257 Postby Macrocane » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:39 pm

Still 60%, if they're waiting for sustained convection I think we've seen enough of that, what does it lack to be a TD?
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#258 Postby Vortex » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:40 pm

1715Z continues to slowly improve...
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#259 Postby nick3232 » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:54 pm

what are the chances it could get into wilma track and hit south florida more likely tropical cyclones formed in octuber take that track but what are the chances 98L could hit south florida?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 98L - Discussion

#260 Postby sunnyday » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:08 pm

What am I hearing? Could it be that the fat lady is singing===again? 8-) 8-)
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