ATL: Remnants of PAULA - Discussion

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Re: ATL: PAULA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1281 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:50 am

So, at what point is the "what if" counter-productive??

You also make a good point. I believe this is what the forum disclaimer is for. Perhaps it should be used more.

Anyways, deep convection firing on the south side:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/flash-wv.html
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Re: ATL: PAULA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1282 Postby xironman » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:53 am

It helps she is moving, even slowly, in the direction of the UL winds.
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Re: ATL: PAULA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1283 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:56 am

xironman wrote:It helps she is moving, even slowly, in the direction of the UL winds.


It helps advance or slow her weakening?
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#1284 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:02 am

JPmia wrote:http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_18.gif

I think likely track will be somewhere in between the NHC's line and the GFDL model track.

*My personal opinion and not official*


I agree with that. Paula may just clip NW Cuba and stay north of the island. But wind shear should weaken it to a TS before it passes south of the Keys and a depression prior to the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: PAULA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1285 Postby xironman » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:04 am

I would think slow the weakening, since the relative shear would not be as strong.
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#1286 Postby x-y-no » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:07 am

wxman57 wrote:
JPmia wrote:http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_18.gif

I think likely track will be somewhere in between the NHC's line and the GFDL model track.

*My personal opinion and not official*


I agree with that. Paula may just clip NW Cuba and stay north of the island. But wind shear should weaken it to a TS before it passes south of the Keys and a depression prior to the Bahamas.


That seems right to me too. I've been thinking for the last two days that the GFDL has the right basic idea but a tad too far north given the strength of the westerlies.
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#1287 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:23 am

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#1288 Postby Ntxw » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:27 am

Looks pretty evident that any part of her going north of Cuba is being/ will be pulled and ripped away from her. The turn seems to have taken place and building is to the south side where it's more favorable. Looks like she spared the Yucatan peninsula with minimal impact.
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#1289 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:28 am

Becoming elongated, a sure sign that Paula could become decouple from the UL circulation before much longer. Once that occurs it will weaken rapidly IMO.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/flash-wv.html


This is my personal opinion and not anything official. You should get all your official information from official authorities.
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#1290 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:31 am

still moving north but has slowed down some.
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#1291 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:37 am

I have no doubt that Paula will be steered/impacted by the shear and westerlies. But where is the southern extent of the strongest westerlies? Aren't they a bit further north ... and if Paula begins to accelerate to the ENE, won't storm-relative shear be less severe? This is NOT going to be a major, damaging storm in my opinion. But couldn't she maintain more of her strength if she is moving with the shear (a la Otto) not against it (a la some of our earlier season storms)?
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#1292 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:47 am

RECON reporting winds at just 10 knots at 400 mb and still quite far from Paula

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#1293 Postby tolakram » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:49 am

HURAKAN wrote:RECON reporting winds at just 10 knots at 400 mb and still quite far from Paula


I think that would be mid level shear and 10 kts sounds about right according to the mid level shear analysis.
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#1294 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:50 am

HURAKAN wrote:RECON reporting winds at just 10 knots at 400 mb and still quite far from Paula

http://i56.tinypic.com/20sgak3.jpg


What does this mean shear wise?
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#1295 Postby KWT » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:15 pm

Quite obvious tilting occuring with Paula, for now its leading to much in the way of problems but as the core itself gets into that region I'm pretty sure it will start to weaken quickly.
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#1296 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:22 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:RECON reporting winds at just 10 knots at 400 mb and still quite far from Paula

http://i56.tinypic.com/20sgak3.jpg


What does this mean shear wise?


That the worse shear is still north of Paula
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#1297 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:22 pm

Paula looks to be doing just fine. Shear not getting to her just yet.
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#1298 Postby KWT » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:27 pm

Yeah the core still looks solid and recon will IMO find a system probably at a similar strength as before but I do think its obvious given the tilting that there is some shear to the north at least at some level.
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#1299 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:39 pm

Looks like the storm is growing size-wise.
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Re: ATL: PAULA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1300 Postby HurricaneRobert » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:42 pm

Wow. Here's something that happened in the same place/time as Paula. It was probably a small hurricane too.

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