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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#141 Postby ronjon » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:30 pm

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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#142 Postby Blown Away » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:47 pm



IMO, to fast having 99L off the SW FL coast in just 5 days.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#143 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:52 pm





Just don't see that happening.
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#144 Postby Vortex » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:21 pm

Overall the majority of the models and GFS ensembles are pointing towards Gulf coast and/or FL in 6-8 days....Climatology would suggest FL but as Ivan pointed out earlier if there is a ridge(GFS) over the FL peninsula with an advancing cold front across the midwest middle of next week it would make sense that that the area from LA-AL could actually be most at threat....


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https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/image ... orm_99.gif
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#145 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:24 pm

The GFS tried to do the same shananigans with Paula. It never developed her even when she was a cat 2. This has already moved north of where the GFS thought, so I would favor a track slightly north of what the GFS is saying. The GFDL seemed to do a good job with Paula, really being the only one intensifying her, and I am agreeing with its thinking this time too.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#146 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:25 pm

I noticed some of the models have it towards the Texas coast. Don't know how valid it is. I know Texas has been hit by tropical cyclones as late as November.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#147 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:26 pm

Nice consensus

This could get quite strong before hitting the Yucatan.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#148 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:30 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Nice consensus

This could get quite strong before hitting the Yucatan.


Will be interesting to see if models shift more east. That is not really a climatologically favored track for this time of year.

I wouldn't say it is hitting the Yucatan just yet :wink:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#149 Postby Vortex » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:33 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Nice consensus

This could get quite strong before hitting the Yucatan.

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This storm may have those from Houston to Key west keeping close tabs on this developing storm the next few days...
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#150 Postby Vortex » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:35 pm

00Z Nam rolling and thru H60 much stronger than prior runs and further N at this point in the run....

H60 Hurricane between honduras and the caymans...



http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_060l.gif
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#151 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:44 pm

18Z GFS 500MB Flow by Day 5. I can see why the HWRF is bending it towards Florida:

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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#152 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:44 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Nice consensus

This could get quite strong before hitting the Yucatan.

]http://www.esl.lsu.edu/quicklinks/hurricanes/2010/nineteen/images/Storm-19-Spaghetti.gif[/img]


Scary consensus plots for the Northern GOM....
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#153 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:54 pm

What is so scary about a TD not even in the GOM?

Does anyone honestly think a model track this far that has changed so much just the last
few days will actually pan out? I'm sorry but I don't.
Anyway it's almost late October and yeah we had Ida last year but this is 2010 and she
really didn't amount to much anyway when she made her U.S. landfall as a sub-tropical storm.
Just my 2 cents and nothing more. :)

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Ivanhater wrote:Nice consensus

This could get quite strong before hitting the Yucatan.

]http://www.esl.lsu.edu/quicklinks/hurricanes/2010/nineteen/images/Storm-19-Spaghetti.gif[/img]


Scary consensus plots for the Northern GOM....
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#154 Postby Vortex » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:58 pm

00Z NAM..strong hurricane with a heading wnw/nw end of run...If it just misses the Yucatan to the E or clips the northern Yucatan this would likely result in a powerful hurricane...


Loop:


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#155 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:00 pm

Ridge is eroding also as a cold front pushes into the southern plains:
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#156 Postby Vortex » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:11 pm

Look at the differences regarding intensity and land interaction between the last 3 runs of the NAM. Also further N each run...


12Z NAM H 84..remant low dissipating over Nicaragua/Honduras

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_084l.gif


18Z Nam H84 a bit further N and just brushing Honduras and near Hurricane strength...


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_084l.gif


00Z NAM at H84 further N and east of belize..stengthening Hurricane...


http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_084l.gif



The trends continue further North and Stronger with much of the guidance...
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Re: ATL : TD 19 - Models

#157 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:11 pm

The northern gulf coast would welcome a sheared TD or TS at this point as most of the northern gulf coast from from Houston to the panhandle of Florida is in moderate to severe drought with extreme drought in some cases further inland. Check out the current drought monitor: http://www.drought.gov/portal/server.pt ... nitor.html

Will be interesting to watch nonetheless, I'm just hoping we finally see some rain next week. It's been exceptionally dry this year.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 99L - Models

#158 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:16 pm

Stormcenter wrote:What is so scary about a TD not even in the GOM?

Does anyone honestly think a model track this far that has changed so much just the last
few days will actually pan out? I'm sorry but I don't.
Anyway it's almost late October and yeah we had Ida last year but this is 2010 and she
really didn't amount to much anyway when she made her U.S. landfall as a sub-tropical storm.
Just my 2 cents and nothing more. :)

Weatherfreak000 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Nice consensus

This could get quite strong before hitting the Yucatan.

]http://www.esl.lsu.edu/quicklinks/hurricanes/2010/nineteen/images/Storm-19-Spaghetti.gif[/img]


Scary consensus plots for the Northern GOM....

Yes I do think it is possible....the NHC literally discussed it OPENLY as well as the pro mets and members here. We aren't seeing things. Give it a rest man :roll:


THE MAJORITY OF THE
TRACK GUIDANCE SHOWS A SLOW LOOPING MOTION TOWARD THE SOUTHEAST...
SOUTH...AND THEN SOUTHWEST DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. AFTER
THAT...A WESTWARD TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION WITH SOME INCREASE
IN FORWARD SPEED IS INDICATED DUE TO THE BUILDING RIDGE TO THE
NORTH. THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THIS SCENARIO...
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Re: ATL : TD 19 - Models

#159 Postby caneman » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:24 pm

WeatherFreak000, even if it did make it to the North Gulf it would most likely be a sheared mess. PLease lets settle down the hype and see how it all plays out.
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Re: ATL : TD 19 - Models

#160 Postby Patrick99 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:32 pm

Interesting. Climatology says keep a lookout.....things change quickly this time of year.
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