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#521 Postby Vortex » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:43 pm

low-confidence in the track sums it up...
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#522 Postby Ntxw » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:50 pm

Vortex wrote:low-confidence in the track sums it up...


That's for sure. But immediate track isn't as low. It's the 3+ days but that's pretty typical for any system.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#523 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:53 pm

I think the intensification process has begun as shear seems to abating. I think a hurricane is very possible tomorrow and will not be as long at the NHC is currently thinking (Saturday afternoon).
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#524 Postby maxx9512 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:55 pm

Looking (staring) at the visable loops it seems to have stopped or barely moving south anymore.
I know NHC has it moving but.... Does anyone agree?
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#525 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:57 pm

The NHC track line didn't change much, but I did notice they slowed the 4-5 day NW motion down.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#526 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:59 pm

NHC basically slowed the storm way down over the Yucatan to avoid pointing it anywhere across the northern Gulf Coast, it appears. They do that often when they're not sure where a storm will go. No sense in alarming people unnecessarily, they figure, by pointing a storm at them when they're not very confident if it will even enter the southern Gulf.
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#527 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:00 pm

Track looks pretty reasonable to me, I wouldn't be shocked though to see it shift just a little east, esp if this one does decide to really take off in the next 24hrs. Wouldn't shock me to see a hurricane tomorrow either, presentation looks better now.

How many storms have actually hit the N.Gulf full stop after the 15th of October by the way, can't be that many away from perhaps the E.Panhandle and the W.Florida coasts.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#528 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:01 pm

I see stationary with the deep red convection building west likely due to reduced shear.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#529 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:01 pm

maxx9512 wrote:Looking (staring) at the visable loops it seems to have stopped or barely moving south anymore.
I know NHC has it moving but.... Does anyone agree?


NHC barely had it moving S-S/SE at 3 mph in thier 5:00 P.M. package.

I think the loop will commence later tonight and a more westward drift should start within the next 24 hours or so as the ridge builds in.
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#530 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:02 pm

KWT wrote:Track looks pretty reasonable to me, I wouldn't be shocked though to see it shift just a little east, esp if this one does decide to really take off in the next 24hrs. Wouldn't shock me to see a hurricane tomorrow either, presentation looks better now.

How many storms have actually hit the N.Gulf full stop after the 15th of October by the way, can't be that many away from perhaps the E.Panhandle and the W.Florida coasts.


I agree, either dies over CA/Yucatan or hits Florida peninsula. Who knows right now??
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#531 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:03 pm

Honduras may well need a hurricane watch just in case this system decides to keep drifting southwards a little further. I don't think that will happen but it does need to be watched.

Looking better and better now, I think recon will find a somewhat stronger system, maybe 45kts.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#532 Postby TheBurn » Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:14 pm

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#533 Postby KWT » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:00 pm

Recon flying towards the system right now so we will soon find out whether the system has strengthened like some of us have expected or not.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#534 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:40 pm

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GFS against climatology right now, I guess we will know in a week or so! :D
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#535 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:41 pm

Mobile, AL AFD.......


MORE INTERESTING GOINGS ON BY WED AND THU. THE STORY WILL BE WRITTEN
BY A SYSTEM CALLED RICHARD. OVER THE NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN...TROPICAL
STORM RICHARD MEANDERS BETWEEN THE EASTERN COAST OF HONDURAS AND
JAMAICA WITHIN A WEAK STEERING FLOW. HOWEVER...AS THE UPPER TROF OVER
THE SOUTHEAST LIFTS OUT AND RIDGING DEVELOPS OVER THE GULF...THE
NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER CALLS FOR RICHARD TO STRENGTHEN TO
HURRICANE STATUS WHILE ADVANCING TOWARD THE YUCATAN PENINSULA LATE IN
THE WEEKEND. RICHARD WEAKENING OVER THE YUCATAN IS FORECAST TO PULL
NORTHWARD INTO THE SOUTHERN GULF EARLY NEXT WEEK WITHIN A BREAK IN
THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. AS NEXT UPPER LEVEL TROF/STORM SYSTEM ADVANCES
EASTWARD OUT OF THE PLAINS MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK...RICHARD IS FORECAST
TO BECOME INCREASINGLY SHEARED WITH ITS CIRCULATION CURVING NORTHEAST
IN THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF THE NORTH CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST.
RICHARD`S FUTURE TRACK AND ITS TROPICAL MOISTURE IS ALL DEPENDENT ON THE
STRENGTH OF THE GULF MID LEVEL RIDGE AND THE TIMING OF THE MID LEVEL
TROF OUT OF THE PLAINS. WITH GULF TEMPERATURES COOLER AND UPPER LEVEL
ENVIRONMENTAL SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS BECOMING HOSTILE OVER THE NORTHERN
GULF...LATEST FORECASTS CALL FOR RICHARD TO BE IN A WEAKENED STATE AS
IT HEADS MORE POLEWARD LATER NEXT WEEK. FOR MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION
ON RICHARD...SEE DISCUSSIONS BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. STAY
TUNED. /10
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#536 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:44 pm

Plane flying at operational altitud.Lets see if they find a stronger Richard or not.
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#537 Postby warmer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:52 pm

convection seem to move to the west now
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#538 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:52 pm

I doubt they'll discover anything significant tonight. Once the shear dies off overnight, we should see some big changes as far as organization and movement.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM RICHARD - Discussion

#539 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:54 pm

wxman57 wrote:I doubt they'll discover anything significant tonight. Once the shear dies off overnight, we should see some big changes as far as organization and movement.


You seem quite bullish for this system in the NW Caribbean. I agree though. A hurricane is very possible tomorrow imo.
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#540 Postby calmbeforestorm1 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:08 pm

I think the strength is the key to where Richard ends up. The GFDL and HRWF show a very strong system being steered by the mid and upper level flow which would bring it into Florida. A weak system would be steered around the surface high which would take the system into C.A. or the southern yucatan. The NHC forecast track is the least likely solution in my opinion because it's a compromise track. I still maintain that any threat for a strong hurricane hitting the CONUS would be from Tampa southward. BTW. Both the GFDL and HWRF show no southward progress from the present position so the current latitude might be a benchmark for the eventual outcome.

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