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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1161 Postby Blown Away » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:37 am

:uarrow: What a beautiful LLC, once shear eases that tight little circulation should have no problem building back up.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1162 Postby Macrocane » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:51 am

Thta convection over the center is growing a little and more convection seems to be developing around it, could it mean that shear is relaxing? It looks to me like the flow in the upper level is still very different from the flow in the low level so that convection may soon be decoupled form the LLC.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1163 Postby TheBurn » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:51 am

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#1164 Postby cyclonic chronic » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:02 am

what a difference a day makes, huh? it does have a nice low level circulation core. if that can remain, even if it gets a little elongated or looser,once the shear/dry air lessens a bit tomas has a good shot at getting back to a cane.IMO
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#1165 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:11 am

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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1166 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:14 am

Blown Away wrote::uarrow: What a beautiful LLC, once shear eases that tight little circulation should have no problem building back up.


If the LLC remains relatively convection free, then it will unravel and potentially dissipate. I'm not sure it's going to survive for 3 days without convection and even if it does, it will probably become a very weak LLC that would take time for it to come back together and produce something. It also looks like the LLC is moving wsw, it might come very close to SA if that continues.

It seems like the difference between this season and 2005 is that 2005 went against climatology several times while this season is strictly abiding to climatology. Tomas looked amazing when it was east of the islands, but then late October came around (climatology) and put it back in its place.
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#1167 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:16 am

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#1168 Postby Nimbus » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:22 am

The official forecast still has this recurving east of Cuba possibly as a Cat1. That sounds serious for Haiti.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1169 Postby GCANE » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:26 am

That hot-tower to the SE that fired earlier this morning no doubt injected heat into the core and as a result increased ascent.

The cells are now firing in the ADT bullseye and seem to be deepening.

If rain-rate takes off, we could see a very quick recovery.



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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1170 Postby HurricaneBelle » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:30 am

hurricaneCW wrote:It seems like the difference between this season and 2005 is that 2005 went against climatology several times while this season is strictly abiding to climatology. Tomas looked amazing when it was east of the islands, but then late October came around (climatology) and put it back in its place.


There was nothing climatological about Tomas' development, as the various records and statistics cited a few days ago indicated. The amount of post-October 1 development hasn't been climatological either. 2010 is a different season than 2005, but strict adherence to climatology isn't one of its strong suits.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1171 Postby GCANE » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:42 am

WV nicely shows the interaction of the large MCS to the SE and the new convection firing east of the LLC.

Seems to be getting a good infeed from it at mid-levels.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-wv.html
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1172 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:44 am

Still no watches for Haiti nor Dominican Republic at the 11 AM advisory. When will they start to issue them? I ask because we know how the infrastructure of Haiti is and warning well ahead would be a good thing.

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#1173 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:46 am

Nimbus wrote:The official forecast still has this recurving east of Cuba possibly as a Cat1. That sounds serious for Haiti.



I pray that it hits jamaca and cuba and miss haiti
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1174 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:48 am

I pray that it hits jamaca and cuba and miss haiti

I really pray that is doesn't affect anyone and dissipates.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1175 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:49 am

cycloneye wrote:Still no watches for Haiti nor Dominican Republic at the 11 AM advisory. When will they start to issue them? I ask because we know how the infrastructure of Haiti is and warning well ahead would be a good thing.


Landfall is still about 96 hours away. Tomorrow will be the earliest advisories go up.
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#1176 Postby Gustywind » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:54 am

cycloneye wrote:
I pray that it hits jamaca and cuba and miss haiti

I really pray that is doesn't affect anyone and dissipates.

Excellent reasoning :) , i really pray that the season will end up quickly and nothing more!
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1177 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:54 am

I see the naked swirl which is now flaring up. I expect to see watches and warnings for Haiti and Dominican Republic soon. It is going to be a big problem for them.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1178 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:57 am

hurricaneCW wrote:
If the LLC remains relatively convection free, then it will unravel and potentially dissipate. I'm not sure it's going to survive for 3 days without convection and even if it does, it will probably become a very weak LLC that would take time for it to come back together and produce something. It also looks like the LLC is moving wsw, it might come very close to SA if that continues.

It seems like the difference between this season and 2005 is that 2005 went against climatology several times while this season is strictly abiding to climatology. Tomas looked amazing when it was east of the islands, but then late October came around (climatology) and put it back in its place.


Both 2005 and 2010 were just one of a kind season. 2005 had storms form in areas you would least expect, notably the Northeastern Atlantic. 2010 also went against climatology.
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#1179 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:04 am

I dont think I've ever been so happy to see a naked swirl in my life! I'm praying Tomas continues to fizzle.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1180 Postby Sanibel » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:06 am

South of west is an odd track for the East Caribbean.


I'm sure everybody on the board is glad Haiti will get a weaker storm. However you have to imagine it will move with the shear and strengthen before getting there.
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