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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1241 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:47 pm

00z Best Track

AL, 21, 2010110200, , BEST, 0, 135N, 704W, 40, 1005, TS

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest

Remains at 40kts.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1242 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:12 pm

The shear is forecast to relax by tommorow night.

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ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *      GOES DATA AVAILABLE                  *
                    *      OHC  DATA AVAILABLE                  *
                    *  TOMAS       AL212010  11/02/10  00 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120

SHEAR (KT)        17    19    15    14    11     8    12     7     8     4    25    17    16
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1243 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:13 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Tstormwatcher wrote:Is the spin I see at 65 west and 11 north our Tomas?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/flash-ir2.html


No, Tomas' center, if there is one, would be near 13.5N/70.4W, passing north of Aruba now. Can't see anything on that satellite link you posted. But I really cannot see any rotation anymore. Too bad no recon until overnight, I think Tomas may be dead. Certainly it's not a TS now.


Does that mean Haiti is in the clear?
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1244 Postby plasticup » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:19 pm

hurricaneCW wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Tstormwatcher wrote:Is the spin I see at 65 west and 11 north our Tomas?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/flash-ir2.html


No, Tomas' center, if there is one, would be near 13.5N/70.4W, passing north of Aruba now. Can't see anything on that satellite link you posted. But I really cannot see any rotation anymore. Too bad no recon until overnight, I think Tomas may be dead. Certainly it's not a TS now.


Does that mean Haiti is in the clear?

Definitely not. They are in for a big rain event, even if Thomas doesn't restrengthen/reform.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1245 Postby GCANE » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:35 pm

CIMSS is reporting shear at 8.4 m/s. This morning it was 10.5 ms.

Microwave is showing a deepening cell NE of the LLC.

It also is firing off high rain-rate.


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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1246 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:54 pm

GCANE wrote:CIMSS is reporting shear at 8.4 m/s. This morning it was 10.5 ms.

Microwave is showing a deepening cell NE of the LLC.

It also is firing off high rain-rate.


http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... t24hrs.gif


http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/htdocs_dyn_m ... W.97pc.jpg


Shows he's still got some life left in him. And here I thought he was done for. Don't know how much longer he'll be able to hold out though.
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#1247 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:16 pm

01/2345 UTC 13.5N 70.4W T1.0/2.0 TOMAS -- Atlantic

Wow....
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#1248 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:19 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:01/2345 UTC 13.5N 70.4W T1.0/2.0 TOMAS -- Atlantic

Wow....

I'm calling TD at 11...or Post-Tropical.
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#1249 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:31 pm

It is really looking bad tonight. Maybe a TD and even then a very poorly disorganized TD.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1250 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:36 pm

And he's still a TS.

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#1251 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:44 pm

Probably a "continuity" call. No concrete information to the contrary and it offers a path of least regret for now.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1252 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:51 pm

The convection firing up now looks much more promising compared to a little while ago.



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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1253 Postby FireRat » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:52 pm

NHC mentions "SATELLITE
ESTIMATES OF T2.5/3.0 FROM TAFB AND T2.6/2.7 FROM THE OBJECTIVE
ADT."

Looks like status quo for now. Maybe TD by morning? I believe that if the shear doesn't let up by this time tomorrow, it's pretty much a done deal as far as getting a hurricane out of Tomas again.
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#1254 Postby wxman57 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:52 pm

mf_dolphin wrote:Probably a "continuity" call. No concrete information to the contrary and it offers a path of least regret for now.


Right, they'll wait for recon to be sure before making any big changes.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1255 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:53 pm

Lets see what the plane finds in the overnight mission.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1256 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:53 pm

HPC suggesting this is Post-tropical by day 6

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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1257 Postby Battlebrick » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:56 pm

WOW look at that convection.. but will it last? We'll see.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1258 Postby abajan » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:46 pm

Battlebrick wrote:WOW look at that convection.. but will it last? We'll see.

Yep. That’s some serious convection alright! Just ask those in Curacao:

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Most unusual weather for them. They’re usually quite dry but lately they seem to be getting heavy rain events more frequently.
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Re: ATL : TOMAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1259 Postby Sanibel » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:52 pm

When a system, decoupled or not, explodes black IR like that it is no time to be calling TD - trust me:




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#1260 Postby Ntxw » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:25 pm

^ Some of the flare ups around him and especially in SA are just as impressive. He's bubbled and bursted several times. It's what happens under all that which counts. When he decides to maintain that burst for a prolonged time, I'd put more worry into it. But I agree, the latest firing is very impressive.
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