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Re: What is the future of this season?

#381 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:19 pm

Has anyone gone back and read our early Aug. Posts? Some of my Favorites are...(And I'm not discrediting anyone, just picking their Impatient/odd Posts, and yes, If anyone wants, they can get a few of my crappy posts and post them. :wink: )
hurricaneCW:
If we can't get a TD to ramp up in the gulf, then I don't know what to tell you. What a sad 1st half of the season. Thank god for Alex or else all hope would have been lost.
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A lot of forecasters are really banking on a ramp up starting August 20th. The Atlantic would literally have to turn on like a light switch in order to meet their expectations. It's already August 12th, we're very close to the heart of the season and there is nothing on the horizon. I wonder what excuse the forecasters will have when it's August 20-25th and everything is as still as the night.
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I think we're looking at a major bust, the Gulf disturbance is very sheared and may not even become a storm. The only thing to look forward to is the African wave, but we've already seen models develop waves that never became anything. I'm pretty sure forecasters are biting their fingernails and hoping to see something soon.
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Well I knew eventually all those who said give it time would cave in. There are some huge factors that are causing the inactivity that stems way beyond the Atlantic basin. The global activity is at a record low and no signs of change anywhere. We could be talking about the biggest forecast bust in history. 1 Fish is all I see in the next 2 weeks, that's all.
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KWT:
What I see is nothing that screams a hyper period is coming up, will probably roll along close to climo for the rest of the season, so maybe 12-13NS. Pretty much we are stuck in a rut that shows NO sign of changing and if its not produced the goods so far, its probably not going to do much good down the line either.

So my call for the rest of the season now is....

10-5-3

which would lead to 13-6-3 overall...we will see what happens but I see a rather massive bust coming for all the agencies...ACE probably will come in still decently above average though due to a couple of long tracking hurricanes.

Note, even forecasting 10NS might be a little on the agressive side but we will see!
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boca:
I don't know what to make of this season,but I can tell you I won't put any stock into the hurricane season predictions anymore.Maybe it will pick up next week like some posters were saying.In three weeks if it doesn't pick up it will be passed the peak of Sept 10th.Like I said in another post when I see it I'll believe it.

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1977 had category 5 Anita in the south-central GOM w/landfall in northern Mexico. In Louisiana, we had a very weak cat 1 storm, Babe. At this point, it's a stretch to even compare 2010 with 1977.

From 2005 to 1977 ... how the expectations for the 2010 season have tumbled.
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I do give credit to that private weather firm based in Houston ... they went totally against the trend back in June and predicted only 8 total named storms. Obviously, they picked up on some negative atmospheric condition that none of the other agencies predicted.
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You know how any storms you would need to get a month the rest of the way to come up with that number?? Not only would September need to be super hyperactive, but so would October and November.....

I know Joe does this for a living, but as a listener of him, I can still be a critic and request him to show me all the evidence....... His numbers are off the charts considering we only have 4 named storms right now, I just can't see 18 to 21 storms for the year......
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I'm starting to believe that there isn't going to be a "switch" that turns on that causes the tropics to become hyperactive.....I'm thinking there will just be the occasional storm from now until the end of the season....

I'm not too sure when the MJO becomes unfavorable again but activity might drop off once that happens...
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I believe that Joe Bastardi is going to be eating a large plate of crow with his outlandish 18 to 21 storm prediction he still believes is going to happen....
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#382 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:28 pm

The Switch did in fact turn on and in a big way :wink:
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#383 Postby chrisjslucia » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:08 pm

All apologies to Joe B should be sent direct to him. As for the private agency in Houston I can offer career counselling at a very reasonable rate....
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#384 Postby boca » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:11 pm

Florida1118 wrote:Has anyone gone back and read our early Aug. Posts? Some of my Favorites are...(And I'm not discrediting anyone, just picking their Impatient/odd Posts, and yes, If anyone wants, they can get a few of my crappy posts and post them. :wink: )
hurricaneCW:
If we can't get a TD to ramp up in the gulf, then I don't know what to tell you. What a sad 1st half of the season. Thank god for Alex or else all hope would have been lost.
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A lot of forecasters are really banking on a ramp up starting August 20th. The Atlantic would literally have to turn on like a light switch in order to meet their expectations. It's already August 12th, we're very close to the heart of the season and there is nothing on the horizon. I wonder what excuse the forecasters will have when it's August 20-25th and everything is as still as the night.
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I think we're looking at a major bust, the Gulf disturbance is very sheared and may not even become a storm. The only thing to look forward to is the African wave, but we've already seen models develop waves that never became anything. I'm pretty sure forecasters are biting their fingernails and hoping to see something soon.
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Well I knew eventually all those who said give it time would cave in. There are some huge factors that are causing the inactivity that stems way beyond the Atlantic basin. The global activity is at a record low and no signs of change anywhere. We could be talking about the biggest forecast bust in history. 1 Fish is all I see in the next 2 weeks, that's all.
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KWT:
What I see is nothing that screams a hyper period is coming up, will probably roll along close to climo for the rest of the season, so maybe 12-13NS. Pretty much we are stuck in a rut that shows NO sign of changing and if its not produced the goods so far, its probably not going to do much good down the line either.

So my call for the rest of the season now is....

10-5-3

which would lead to 13-6-3 overall...we will see what happens but I see a rather massive bust coming for all the agencies...ACE probably will come in still decently above average though due to a couple of long tracking hurricanes.

Note, even forecasting 10NS might be a little on the agressive side but we will see!
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boca:
I don't know what to make of this season,but I can tell you I won't put any stock into the hurricane season predictions anymore.Maybe it will pick up next week like some posters were saying.In three weeks if it doesn't pick up it will be passed the peak of Sept 10th.Like I said in another post when I see it I'll believe it.

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StormClouds63:

1977 had category 5 Anita in the south-central GOM w/landfall in northern Mexico. In Louisiana, we had a very weak cat 1 storm, Babe. At this point, it's a stretch to even compare 2010 with 1977.

From 2005 to 1977 ... how the expectations for the 2010 season have tumbled.
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I do give credit to that private weather firm based in Houston ... they went totally against the trend back in June and predicted only 8 total named storms. Obviously, they picked up on some negative atmospheric condition that none of the other agencies predicted.
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This really is a great post where did you dig up the posts
ConvergenceZone:
You know how any storms you would need to get a month the rest of the way to come up with that number?? Not only would September need to be super hyperactive, but so would October and November.....

I know Joe does this for a living, but as a listener of him, I can still be a critic and request him to show me all the evidence....... His numbers are off the charts considering we only have 4 named storms right now, I just can't see 18 to 21 storms for the year......
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I'm starting to believe that there isn't going to be a "switch" that turns on that causes the tropics to become hyperactive.....I'm thinking there will just be the occasional storm from now until the end of the season....

I'm not too sure when the MJO becomes unfavorable again but activity might drop off once that happens...
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I believe that Joe Bastardi is going to be eating a large plate of crow with his outlandish 18 to 21 storm prediction he still believes is going to happen....


This is a great post where did you dig up those posts.
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#385 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:04 am

:lol: :lol:

Now that was funny. I think he just basically tracked members prone to that sort of talk and searched their individual post record.....


But seriously now....the fact that so many individuals (including myself) at that point were so pessimistic...I mean..it's unbelievable. We truly are naive when it comes to this.
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#386 Postby Florida1118 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:21 am

boca wrote:
Florida1118 wrote:


This is a great post where did you dig up those posts.

They all came from this thread on pages 1-8. I was just reading back through this, and decided to put up some early post. And NO I don't track people :wink:
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#387 Postby chrisjslucia » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:50 pm

it can happen to anyone. I was looking through another thread and someone (name withheld cos I like 'em) stated they needed some rain anyway. Shortly afterwards they were reporting on the heavy tropical storm raging around them! We all need a little humble pie in our lives sometimes.
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#388 Postby Florida1118 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:40 am

I'm sure I'll make mistakes for the 2011 season, so it's not a big deal. We all got impatient. I am still annoyed that we could have had at least 3 more storms (TDs 2 and 5, and a 80% invest), putting us at Greek already.
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#389 Postby Ntxw » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:01 pm

Florida1118 wrote:I'm sure I'll make mistakes for the 2011 season, so it's not a big deal. We all got impatient. I am still annoyed that we could have had at least 3 more storms (TDs 2 and 5, and a 80% invest), putting us at Greek already.


So close yet so far away, just to show you how rare it is to go greek (only happened once) even with a super active season like this year's. So the percentages of having another is pretty much nill. Temperatures in the Caribbean are falling off gradually, Im wondering if we'll even get another one to form in time.
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#390 Postby dwsqos2 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:42 pm

It's rather funny to me that the Atlantic managed to produce a stronger tropical cyclone during the October-November period during the 2009 season than the 2010 season. To be fair, IIRC, around the time Ida's formation, the SOI was rather positive (i.e. the atmosphere was Nina-like) , and there was a respectable amount of ridging over the Southeast. Also, probably due to El Nino's influence, a very high-amplitude phase 8 of the MJO preceeded Ida's formation.
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Re: What is the future of this season?

#391 Postby somethingfunny » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:44 pm

I'm stunned that out of so many potential late season monsters....from Matthew through Nicole, Paula, Richard, and Tomas.....not a single one of them managed to become a major hurricane. Very lucky.
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