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North of Panama, minimal model support

#1 Postby tolakram » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:37 pm

Someone has to mention .... :)

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Shear is forecast to be favorable for 15 or 20 minutes during that timeframe.

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La Nina, so you never can tell, but the pro-mets point out that models are horrible down here this time of year.

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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#2 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:46 pm

Mark.you are not alone as NHC mentions it too. :)

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
700 PM EST MON NOV 29 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE HAS FORMED OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA. THIS DISTURBANCE IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS...AND ANY DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE SLOW TO OCCUR.
THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES LITTLE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#3 Postby Macrocane » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:51 pm

FWIW the GFS has been very consistant predicting the development of this system though it needs more support from other models IMO.
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#4 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:08 pm

Rare place for December development. Not expecting anything from this.
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#5 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:06 pm

Eh well you never know we might get Virginie this year after all...and off topic but Why didnt they put TD's in their seasonal maps?
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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#6 Postby Hurricanehink » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:49 pm

Odette 03 certainly a good comparison.
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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#7 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:04 pm

Check the NHC one final time and there's a yellow blob on the map. Crazy.
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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#8 Postby Ad Novoxium » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:15 pm

How ironic if this forms:
A post by jinftl back in March wrote:I am a sucker for storm names that just seem destined to make great news headlines....so for that reason, I expect that the following storms will be the newsmakers this upcoming season....because headlines like these are just too media-ready to go unused in this day and age:
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Yes Virginie, there is a hurricane in December
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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#9 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:53 am

ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
700 AM EST TUE NOV 30 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE OVER THE EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN
SEA...JUST NORTH OF PANAMA...IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS. THIS ACTIVITY WILL LIKELY SPREAD GRADUALLY WESTWARD
OVER PORTIONS OF PANAMA AND COSTA RICA TODAY AND WEDNESDAY.
DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO OCCUR. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA
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#10 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:08 pm

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GFS keeps developing this system
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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#11 Postby Migle » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:45 pm

And that will end the 2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season...


ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
700 PM EST TUE NOV 30 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE OVER PANAMA...COSTA
RICA...AND THE ADJACENT WATERS OF THE SOUTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE. DEVELOPMENT...IF
ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO OCCUR...AND THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

TODAY MARKS THE END OF THE 2010 HURRICANE SEASON. ISSUANCE OF THIS
PRODUCT WILL RESUME ON 1 JUNE 2011. SHOULD THE CURRENT DISTURBANCE
DEVELOP FURTHER...OR ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANT DISTURBANCES DEVELOP
DURING THE OFF-SEASON...SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOKS WOULD BE
ISSUED AS NEEDED UNDER THE SAME WMO HEADER ABNT20 KNHC...AND AWIPS
HEADER MIATWOAT.

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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#12 Postby tolakram » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:24 am

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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#13 Postby tolakram » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:26 pm

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=5

Still firing and some consolidation plus banding (or the appearance of banding) is showing up. Model support seems to be drying up though.
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#14 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:24 pm

They would likely only issue new outlooks when it looks like development is possible (i.e. initiate at least at Code Orange).
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:16 am

SHIP S 1100 9.00 -79.60 122 169 - - - - - - - 29.73 -0.05 73.4
SHIP S 1100 12.60 -81.40 126 320 30 28.0 - 4.9 3.0 - - 29.85 +0.03 79.7

29.73 inches = 1006.8 mb and 28 knots from the other ship

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Re: North of Panama, minimal model support

#16 Postby tolakram » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:27 pm

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#17 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:49 pm

:uarrow: yes, it appears to be slowly moving south and now it's inland
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