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#2561 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:32 pm

BigB0882 wrote:Plus, I doubt TWC has used any of the new runs so their current forecasts may not match up at all with the newest model runs.


We've had 3 good snows here in Hattiesburg the last 2 years and TWC was forecasting rain up right until the day of the event, while showing the Winter Storm Watch bulletin from the NWS for heavy snow. The watch was issued 36 hours in advance and that's not even referring to how long the NWS had been forecasting at least a rain/snow mix. TWC usually is clueless and/or doesn't care.
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#2562 Postby BigB0882 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:39 pm

Oh, I know! Here in Baton Rouge they have shown rain up until the event and then suddenly they are showing a Winter Weather Advisory. If I didn't follow this board and other more reliable forecasting entities then I would have been completely confused. I'm sure many people were.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2563 Postby MSUChristian88 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:43 pm

So whats the most likely outcome for the STarkville, Ms/ MSU area for snow chances?
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#2564 Postby Mr. Weather » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:44 pm

what do u think about this website is it worth trusting i have checked it a couple of times today first it said it was going to snow in Houston now its saying its not ????


http://www.myforecast.com/bin/expanded_ ... tric=false
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2565 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:48 pm

MSUChristian88 wrote:So whats the most likely outcome for the STarkville, Ms/ MSU area for snow chances?


Starkville has a good chance of snow Sunday and Sunday night. You could possibly end up with half a foot or more of snow. Just going to depend on the track of the low.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2566 Postby MSUChristian88 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:00 am

I've heard that and then i'm also hearing them say we are only gonna get maybe a snow/ice event, like an inch of snow and ice. Hope that low stays just a lil bit south, I want to see some serious snow lol
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2567 Postby Brent » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:17 am

Friday January 7, 2011
Forecaster: James Spann


MAJOR WINTER STORM POSSIBLE SUNDAY AND MONDAY: Parameters are coming together for the potential for very significant winter weather issues for Alabama in about 48 hours. But, before we get there…

TODAY AND TOMORROW: The weather will be generally quiet across Alabama through tomorrow. For the I-20 corridor, we expect ample sunshine, with a high in the low 50s today, followed by mid 40s tomorrow as colder air begins to drop into the state. We need to mention some risk of show flurries or snow showers across the northeast corner of the state at times today or tonight, but the bulk of that precipitation is expected to be up in Tennessee.

Clouds will thicken tomorrow night in advance of our developing winter weather system.

SUNDAY/MONDAY: A vigorous wave in the upper atmosphere will spin up a surface low in the Northwest Gulf of Mexico, which will move to the east/northeast through Monday. A shield of precipitation will move into Southwest Alabama Sunday morning, which could be in the form of freezing rain or sleet at the onset. As the precipitation moves north, it is expected to be mostly snow across the northern third of the state, with a wintry mix of snow and freezing rain over the North-Central Counties. It looks like the heaviest precipitation will come Sunday night, with potential for heavy snow over North Alabama, and some significant icing over the central counties. Then, during the day Monday, the precipitation will slowly taper off as the low weakens and moves northeast.

The National Weather Service will be issuing a winter storm watch for much of North and Central Alabama early this morning. Here is a breakdown of our accumulation forecast

THE TENNESSEE VALLEY: We are projecting 5 to 10 inches of snow for the northern third of the state, generally north of U.S. 278, or north of a line from Hamilton to Cullman to Gadsden. Some of the cities in this region include Decatur, Muscle Shoals, Athens, Huntsville, Scottsboro, and Boaz. Within this area, there will be about a 30 to 40 mile wide zone of heavy snow, where we expect 7 to 10 inches. Other areas will see 5 to 7 inches, most likely.

NORTH-CENTRAL ALABAMA: For the I-20 corridor (Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, Anniston), we are forecasting 2 to 5 inches of snow, with potential for periods of freezing rain, which could lead to some significant amounts ice accumulation on trees, power lines, and bridges. It remains to be seen if there will be enough ice for major power outages, but that possibility can’t be ruled out completely. Freezing rain is liquid precipitation that falls when surface temperatures are below freezing; this tends to coat everything with ice. This is clearly the most challenging part of this forecast.

U.S. 80 CORRIDOR: Some snow and ice is likely as far south as U.S. 80, or a line from Demopolis to Selma to Montgomery to Opelika. The accumulation will be lighter here, but icy spots are possible on bridges along with some light snow accumulation by Monday morning.

SOUTH ALABAMA: Mostly rain will fall south of U.S. 80, but there could be periods of sleet, and some freezing rain. Maybe even a few snow flakes. But, major problems for now are not expected over the southern half of Alabama from wintry precipitation.

TRAVEL: It is likely that travel across the northern half of Alabama will become difficult, if not impossible in areas, Sunday afternoon into Sunday night and Monday. We realize many are flying out of Birmingham headed to Auburn’s national championship game in Phoenix this weekend; be aware that major flight delays are possible Sunday and Monday due to ice and snow. This winter storm will also impact airports in Atlanta, Nashville, and Memphis.

BE WEATHER AWARE: Keep an eye for changes in our forecast as this system develops during the next 48 hours. With any winter weather event like this in Alabama, some people will receive snow than forecast, and others less. And, there is always a surprise or two. Stay tuned.

NEXT WEEK: Very cold air settles into the state early next week, and we will maintain a chance of lingering snow showers or flurries into Tuesday. Highs will be only in the 30s, with lows in the 20s. Major travel problems sure seem likely Monday morning, with some potential for improvement by Monday afternoon as temperatures ease above freezing. For now Wednesday and Thursday look dry with moderating temperatures.

LONG RANGE: Still some concern over very cold Arctic air that is expected to invade the continental U.S. in about 7 to 10 days; if the pattern we see on computer model output verifies, we could be dealing with record cold across the Deep South in the January 18-22 time frame.

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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2568 Postby Brent » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:03 am

*falls out of chair*

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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2569 Postby Snowluvr » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:18 am

Well.. I guess our snow chances in South Ms are all but gone. It was a fun ride.. Maybe next time. :cry:
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#2570 Postby Lane » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:24 am

I like that map Brent!!
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2571 Postby georgia_tech_swagger » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:51 am

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC
936 AM EST FRI JAN 7 2011

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/...
AS OF 255 AM FRI...THE WINTER STORM SCENARIO CONTINUES TO SEEM VERY
LIKELY SUN NIGHT INTO TUE.
THE LATEST GFS HAS INITIALIZED VERY WELL
WITH THE WV UPPER LOW OFF THE SRN CA COAST...AND IT CONTINUES TO
SUPPORT THE OTHER OP MODELS WITH A SIGNIFICANT SNOW PRODUCING
MILLER/A IDEA LATE SUN INTO TUE. THE 00Z GEFS SHOWS LESS THAN A 2 DM
SPREAD IN THE UPPER S/W AND A TIGHT CLUSTERING OF CYCLOGENESIS OFF
THE TX COAST SUN AFTERNOON...THEN CONTINUED CLOSE AGREEMENT WITH THE
LOW CENTER PLACEMENT AND MAGNITUDE AS THE SYSTEM MOVES TOWARD NRN FL
THROUGH MON.

THE AIRMASS AWAITING THE SRN STREAM LOW SHOULD BE DRY AND COLD AS
GOOD NW FLOW ALIGNED WITHIN A SFC HIGH ELONGATED SHARPLY OUT OF THE
UPPER MIDWEST PERSISTS LATE SUN AND AGEO WEDGES INTO MON. MID LEVEL
PRECIP ONSET IS WELL AGREED UPON...WHICH SHOULD OCCUR SHORTLY AFT
00Z. IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST FEW HOURS WILL BE SPENT MOISTENING UP
SFC LAYER AND ALLOWING SFC TEMPS TO EVAPO COOL TO BELOW FREEZING
BEFORE 06Z. THE LATEST HPC WWD GRAPHICS INDICATE WARNING LEVEL SNOW
ACCUM BY 12Z ACROSS THE UPSTATE AND NE GA...AND THIS IS NOT OUT OF
THE REALM OF POSSIBILITIES CONSIDERING CONTINUITY AND THE FAVORED
PROG OF THE SYNOPTIC SETUP.


THE 295K ISENTROPIC LAYER...ON BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF...SHOWS STRONG
ADIABATIC OMEGA AND SATURATED CPD/S DEVELOPING IN EARNEST ACROSS THE
SW CWFA BEFORE 12Z. THIS ENHANCED AREA OF LIFT IS MOST LIKELY
ASSOCIATED WITH MLVL FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING AND IT WILL BE THE MAIN
PLAYER AS FAR AS POSSIBLY PRODUCING HEAVY SNOW BANDS TRAVERSING THE
CWFA THROUGHOUT THE DAY. MODEL SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO SHOW DEEP NEAR
FREEZING ISOTHERMAL LAYERS OUTSIDE THE MTNS...ANOTHER INDICATOR OF
STRONG VERTICAL MOTION...SO THE IDEA THAT HEAVY SNOW RATES REACHING
WARNING LEVELS EARLY MON AND INTO THE THE AFTERNOON IS LOOKING
PRETTY GOOD...EVEN CONSIDERING THE EVENT IS STILL OVER 3 DAYS
AWAY. A QUICK LOOK AT THE ANALOGS SHOWS THAT BASED ON A STATISTICAL
FIT TO THE H3/H5 PATTERN...THE JAN 1988 SNOW EVENT IS THE TOP ANALOG
AND THAT STORM ACCUMULATED OVER A FOOT OF SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE
CWFA.


THE SNOWFALL COULD LINGER INTO TUE MORNING ACROSS THE NW PIEDMONT AS
ISEN OMEGA REMAINS STRONG AND SATURATED WITH GOOD ATL MOIST FLUX ON
THE NORTH AND EVEN BACKSIDE OF THE NE/WARD MOVING SFC LOW.
ADDITIONALLY...A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NW FLOW SNOW WILL BE QUICK TO
SETUP AFTER THE SYNOPTIC EVENT. THE LATEST GFS INDICATES THE SNOW
COULD FALL CONTINUOUSLY ACROSS THE FAVORED UPSLOPE AREAS INTO THU.

MEANWHILE...A VERY STRONG CA HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BUILD ACROSS
THE MS VALLEY WED AND SETTLE ACROSS THE SE REGION THROUGH FRI. THIS
WILL HELP KEEP MAX AND MIN TEMPS WELL BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE
PERIOD.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2572 Postby Brent » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:21 am

12z model runs snow accumulations, both near historic storms, the NAM is epic with 6+ inches of snow from TX all the way over to GA and isolated 10 inches.

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#2573 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:26 am

Brent, it looks like you better run off to the store and get all of your preps done as this winter storm has all the makings to be quite a wallop across North and Central Alabama.

Very impressive snow and possible ice accumulations expected across many areas up your way, also in North and Central GA and on through the Carolinas. This next storm coming in looks to be worse than what came through two weeks ago during Christmas weekend.
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#2574 Postby SunnyThoughts » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:32 am

Am I looking at those snow depth maps correctly? The nam as well as the gfs showing a little white stuff in NW Fla?

BTW good luck Brent...looks to be a great chance for you. Hope it all happens, you need to build a snowman afterward and take pics
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2575 Postby Raebie » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:34 am

Looks like the Piedmont might get walloped.
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#2576 Postby Byrd » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:39 am

Wow, Brent! I'm afraid to jinx us by saying it, but this looks as if we might really get something, even here in Demopolis (west central Alabama).

Thank you for keeping us up on all the latest.

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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2577 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:59 am

Raebie wrote:Looks like the Piedmont might get walloped.


The N.C. Piedmont area will get two seperate events beginning late today. The first upper air disturbance is moving through now and is expected to bring a possible 1-2 inches of snow to areas of the Foothills and Piedmont of North Carolina. A winter weather advisory is up in effect through midnight in those areas.

The BIG event for the Carolinas will arrive late Sunday night into Monday as the Low pressure system moves from the Gulf region to off the SC coast by late Monday afternoon. Significant snow accumulations are expected across the upstate of SC into the Foothills and Piedmont of NC. There also could be a zone of freezing rain in the midlands of SC (Columbia area) as well. A BIG BIG MESS in store for much of the Carolinas, with the only exception being for the immediate coastal plain regions where the thermal profiles look to be a bit too warm for frozen precip at this time. But, even those areas should closely monitor the situation late into this weekend.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2578 Postby DEEDEE911 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:06 pm

The last time they said that southwest mississippi was only going to get was rain we wound up with 6 inches of snow maybe it will do this again
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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2579 Postby Raebie » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:07 pm

Thanks. I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

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Re: Deep South Winterwx thread: January trouble

#2580 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:13 pm

Raebie wrote:Thanks. I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

:D


I follow the weather closely up there even though I'm down here in NE FL. I have a lot of family up there in Charlotte, and I often am up there at least 3-4 times a year. So, Raebie, I would definitely make preps in regards to Monday up in the Queen city. Monday really looks to be a very rough and messy day. So whether you want to laugh or cry about it, well that's up to you LOL.. 8-)

But, take care up there when this storm arrives for sure!
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