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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2841 Postby wall_cloud » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:11 pm

pwrdog wrote:San Angelo has just had bad luck....... Maybe that will change... You guys have been surrounded by some pretty good snowstorms..

It 's hard to forget that jan 12th 1985 snowstorm in south Texas... Many got 10-16 inches...

1998 storm dropped 9 to 12 inches around Midland

1987 storm dropped 20-30 inches in and around El Paso

2004 storms dropped 10-16 inches SE of Houston

And the February 1895 Blizzard in Houston we all dream about.... Many in SE texas got 18 inches and some places just north and east of Houston got 24-36 inches... Roof damage from something like that would be insane..


you think I WANT to see significant snow? Count me in the minority here. I've had my share of the white stuff. I can do without. Now don't get me wrong. Winter weather forecasting is a challenge unrivaled by most other areas of meteorology. I love forecasting it but driving in it sucks. Add ice into the mix and its even worse!
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2842 Postby southerngale » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:13 pm

wall_cloud wrote:you think I WANT to see significant snow? Count me in the minority here. I've had my share of the white stuff. I can do without. Now don't get me wrong. Winter weather forecasting is a challenge unrivaled by most other areas of meteorology. I love forecasting it but driving in it sucks. Add ice into the mix and its even worse!


Awesome! Could you forecast some for me? 8-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2843 Postby wall_cloud » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:20 pm

southerngale...

forecasting does not equal -removed-! :ggreen:

Gotta use my head and not my heart!
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2844 Postby iorange55 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:33 pm

18z is looking good so far...let's see if it still shows snow.

No huge snow storm. Close call for north texas on this run. But there is a lot of cold air on this run.


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That is day 15. Long long long ways out. We'll see.

Day 16.

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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2845 Postby southerngale » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:42 pm

wall_cloud wrote:southerngale...

forecasting does not equal -removed-! :ggreen:

Gotta use my head and not my heart!



Oh well, it was worth a shot. ;)

If the models continue to tease us Gulf coasters, perhaps you'll be able to forecast it soon enough. I can dream, can't I?
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2846 Postby txagwxman » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:24 pm

Euro NADA for snow...yawn.

Just cold next weekend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2847 Postby natlib » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:25 pm

From the San Angelo NWS.....a hint at what could happen next weekend:

NEXT SIGNIFICANT UPPER TROUGH TO DIVE SOUTH FROM CANADA AND INTO
THE GREAT LAKES REGION FRIDAY INTO EARLY SATURDAY. THIS SYSTEM
WILL DISLODGE ARCTIC AIR SOUTHWARD INTO THE PLAINS BY THE UPCOMING
WEEKEND...BRINGING THE POSSIBILITY OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES TO
THE AREA. LATEST MODELS SHOW THE FRONT MOVING SOUTH ACROSS THE
AREA FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY. HIGHS ON FRIDAY AHEAD OF THE
FRONT WILL WARM INTO THE 60S...THEN COOL DOWN IN THE 50S AGAIN ON
SATURDAY. A TREND TOWARD COLDER TEMPERATURES MAY BE NEEDED FOR
BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY PENDING A HIGHER CONFIDENCE IN THE
MODELS WITH THIS SYSTEM.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2848 Postby txagwxman » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:25 pm

southerngale wrote:
wall_cloud wrote:southerngale...

forecasting does not equal -removed-! :ggreen:

Gotta use my head and not my heart!



Oh well, it was worth a shot. ;)

If the models continue to tease us Gulf coasters, perhaps you'll be able to forecast it soon enough. I can dream, can't I?



You can't trust the GFS...ECMWF says nope...and it will probably not happen.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2849 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:32 pm

txagwxman wrote:Euro NADA for snow...yawn.

Just cold next weekend.


I wouldn't trust the Euro too much either. ALL of the models are having troubles. How many times this year has the euro predicted a SW storm (few days ago it wanted to bury Tuesdays storm into MX)? You're right it probably won't happen, but Euro h5 maps are good for trending and a sharpening ridge with the high further north should allow more subtropical jet energy to swing on up! I hope...
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2850 Postby txagwxman » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:39 pm

Ntxw wrote:
txagwxman wrote:Euro NADA for snow...yawn.

Just cold next weekend.


I wouldn't trust the Euro too much either. ALL of the models are having troubles. How many times this year has the euro predicted a SW storm (few days ago it wanted to bury Tuesdays storm into MX)? You're right it probably won't happen, but Euro h5 maps are good for trending and a sharpening ridge with the high further north should allow more subtropical jet energy to swing on up! I hope...



I just don't like trusting snowmaggedons from the GFS 8 days out!
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#2851 Postby DonWrk » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:39 pm

So nothing is looking good in the 7 day time frame? Is that why were having to look 16 days out?
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#2852 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:40 pm

DonWrk wrote:So nothing is looking good in the 7 day time frame? Is that why were having to look 16 days out?


Today shows nothing, check back tomorrow probably opposite of today. Might have a blizzard somewhere (sarcasm).
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#2853 Postby iorange55 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:41 pm

DonWrk wrote:So nothing is looking good in the 7 day time frame? Is that why were having to look 16 days out?



Next 7 days are looking fairly boring. After that though it gets really interesting. We'll see what happens. Also the possible snow storm has been 11 days out or so. Not 16. Not that it matters.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2854 Postby amawea » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:30 pm

It's the same old song and same old dance with the models. They always show some kind of catastrophic winter weather event this time of year at 10 days out and they are all liares! 8-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2855 Postby wall_cloud » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:49 pm

and everyone always gets excited. 8-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2856 Postby gboudx » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:53 pm

wall_cloud wrote:and everyone always gets excited. 8-)


Of course, it's model stuff. :D My rule of thumb for years has been to wait for the models to show it at 72 hours. At that point, I might start to believe it. At 48 hours, confidence grows. Then at 24 hours, it becomes simply "wait and see" because as anyone who lives here can attest, we've seen forecasted sleet/snow be nothing more than a cold rain, and cold rain turn to sleet/snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2857 Postby iorange55 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:54 pm

wall_cloud wrote:and everyone always gets excited. 8-)



I don't think it's as much excitement as it is just something to talk about. Sure a huge storm is not likely to come, but I'd rather the GFS show that then nothing at all. If it's showing that then at least we have a chance at some kind of wintry weather, rather it be just a little or a lot.

As long it's there it's worth talking about.
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#2858 Postby Metalicwx220 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:59 pm

How are yall so sure it won't happen? Models are going to have the storm again. Just wait and see.Maybe even tonight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#2859 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:00 pm

iorange55 wrote:
wall_cloud wrote:and everyone always gets excited. 8-)



I don't think it's as much excitement as it is just something to talk about. Sure a huge storm is not likely to come, but I'd rather the GFS show that then nothing at all. If it's showing that then at least we have a chance at some kind of wintry weather, rather it be just a little or a lot.

As long it's there it's worth talking about.


You are totally right! The rollercoaster ride is part of the fun! Many say people up north aren't as excited for snow. It's the same with model watching I guess. If you know you're always going to get it, what's the fun in that?! It's all of the heartbreaks that make the one time even sweeter.
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#2860 Postby iorange55 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:02 pm

Metalicwx220 wrote:How are yall so sure it won't happen? Models are going to have the storm again. Just wait and see.Maybe even tonight.



I'm not sure it won't happen. It's just not likely at this point. I'm sure the 0z will have it again tonight, but I won't trust it till it gets closer to the event.

As I was saying though either way I take it as a good thing. I'd rather it show something, then nothing at all. Trends are nice.
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