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#8701 Postby jeff » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:46 pm
wxman57 wrote:Metalicwx220 wrote::uarrow: LOL me too.. I eat popsicles in the winter and I like to sleep with the ac blasting. lol

So do I - cold at night for sleeping - AC blasting or windows open in winter. But not cold while biking.
Biking in the cold is just no good...for road riding especially with the wind...now mountain biking is OK as you are more protected. I went for 22 miles this morning in the fog and that increased humidity had me sweating for the first time. Temperatures really are not my issue, but the wind. Going (or at least attempting to keep 20mph) into a 20mph head wind is no fun at all.
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#8702 Postby Turtle » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm
GFS is showing lows in mid to upper 30s for me on Tuesday. Still on track. If not, my last freeze is in Feb 12, about 1 month or more earlier than average.
At 348 hours and later, GFS is showing lows in the teens and highs in the low 20s. Hopefully this will be the winter finale!

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#8703 Postby Metalicwx220 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:47 pm
LOL it has a blizzard or whatever that is for florida and Georgia at 384 hours.
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#8704 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:00 am
Man lol clash of the models. If the ECMWF is right, at 240 hours Mexico extending up the plains is baking (relative to this time of year). What a horrible sight! GFS of course is cooler (no pun intended).
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#8705 Postby wxman57 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:20 am
Fortunately (for me), the 00Z and 06Z GFS runs (and Euro) indicate the freeze line just touching north TX (Dallas area) on a couple of occasions the next few weeks. No teens.
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#8706 Postby txagwxman » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:31 am
Models have completely backed off for Texas...oh well it was fun when it lasted...I need to move to Dallas.

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#8707 Postby jinftl » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:42 am
Temps will be flirting with 90 degrees in Laredo today...'cool down' to 70 on Tuesday and jump back to the mid to high 80s for the rest of the week....hot even by this south floridians standards!!!
(NWS Dallas calls for 65-70 deg temps late week into next weekend in the metroplex, NWS Houston calls for 75-80 deg temps for the same period.....grrr....time for us in the south to think about the atlantic and not the arctic as the next news-making weather maker i think...)
NWS Forecast for: 7 Miles NNW Laredo International Airport TX
Issued by: National Weather Service Corpus Christi, TX
Last Update: 7:40 am CST Feb 20, 2011
Today: Mostly cloudy, then gradually becoming sunny, with a high near 89.
Washington's Birthday: Sunny, with a high near 86.
Tuesday: A 20 percent chance of showers. Cloudy, with a high near 70.
Wednesday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 82.
Thursday: Partly sunny, with a high near 87.
Friday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 87.
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 87.
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#8708 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:17 am
Why has no one said anything about the 1050s (1056) mb high being generated by the GFS in the short term in western Canada? (And long term for that matter) Sure the pattern might not be right for it to come directly south but the sheer weight of it alone gives hope it might brush Texas!
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#8709 Postby pwrdog » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:42 am
Metalicwx220 wrote:LOL it has a blizzard or whatever that is for florida and Georgia at 384 hours.
It happened in 1993! It can happen again..
It snowed just north of Houston in April 2007...
Winter is not over.. Plenty of cold air to work with...
Russia Current conditions- 2/21/2011- 2:00 am
Oymyakon, -70 °F
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#8710 Postby jinftl » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:20 pm
Lots of cold left for Siberia....no question about that. The correlation between what the temperature is in Sibera compared to Texas is not a perfect one...esp as we head into late Feb and March....while temps can still reach -70 deg in Siberia this time of year...climatology down in the temperate zone that texas is in dictates that the average last frost date has already passed in deep south texas and will work its way north to the houston/austin/san antonio areas in the next few weeks....probably explains why people used to be sent to siberia as punishment back in the days of the u.s.s.r.!!!

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#8711 Postby jerryh421 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:49 pm
jinftl wrote:Lots of cold left for Siberia....no question about that. The correlation between what the temperature is in Sibera compared to Texas is not a perfect one...esp as we head into late Feb and March....while temps can still reach -70 deg in Siberia this time of year...climatology down in the temperate zone that texas is in dictates that the average last frost date has already passed in deep south texas and will work its way north to the houston/austin/san antonio areas in the next few weeks....probably explains why people used to be sent to siberia as punishment back in the days of the u.s.s.r.!!!
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So meaning we won't see another freeze?
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#8712 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:08 pm
Winter is over in a sense if you're looking for historical blasts of tundra like early Feb. But we all know any typical winter that isn't always the first place to look for cold and wintry precip. It is the rogue cut off lows that often are not associated with arctic sure (of course both in unison would be ideal) but that is not always needed especially the northern half of the state. In that sense, our chances are not at 0 up until April but those are hard to predict and can never be counted out.
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#8713 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:16 pm
The +NAO, strong southeastern US ridge should prevent any cold air from making it too far south into Texas over the next 7-10 days. The models haven't been forecasting the magnitude of the NAO very well - this is why you've seen the models trending warmer and warmer compared to what they showed last week.
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#8714 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:39 pm
Right on cue, GFS and Euro are depicting a stacked/deep cut off over the southern plains. Of course where this thing goes has big implications, but as is, you would have a rogue winter storm (been shown for awhile) from the Texas panhandle into Oklahoma along it's path verbatim. But that is 150+ hours away and plenty of time to keep thoughts.
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#8715 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:23 pm
Ntxw wrote:Right on cue, GFS and Euro are depicting a stacked/deep cut off over the southern plains. Of course where this thing goes has big implications, but as is, you would have a rogue winter storm (been shown for awhile) from the Texas panhandle into Oklahoma along it's path verbatim. But that is 150+ hours away and plenty of time to keep thoughts.
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When I saw that, I thought more of a severe event than a last shot at winter weather. Temps seem like they'll be too warm to me.
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#8716 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:35 pm
cheezyWXguy wrote:When I saw that, I thought more of a severe event than a last shot at winter weather. Temps seem like they'll be too warm to me.
It could be, but my general knowledge is that systems with 552dm or lower tend to be winter storms especially underneath/behind the low (lower heights means colder air). I've never seen 530s dm not be a winter storm. They generate their own cold air and might not be seen far out (ECMWF dips the 540 thickness into North Texas at 174 but precip ends), if it stands in time it should gradually look colder and more detailed.
I could be wrong, this is just speculation from me to stir chatter as supposed to be on a discussion forum when all hope has but faded

. Ahead of it will definitely be a severe weather threat.
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#8717 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:51 pm
Hey Ntxw, off topic but did you see JB has announced he is no longer with Accuweather ? Left with no reason and no one has a clue where he's heading. He's one of the best long range forecasters I know and a great teacher. Really odd!!
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#8718 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:53 pm
orangeblood wrote:Hey Ntxw, off topic but did you see JB has announced he is no longer with Accuweather ? Left with no reason and no one has a clue where he's heading. He's one of the best long range forecasters I know and a great teacher. Really odd!!
Yeah I did! There's a topic on that in talkin tropics, and has been a buzz around weather forums! He was really good at pointing out weather patterns and using analogs. Wonder if this winter's unpredictability played a role in his resignation? That's a tough loss for accuwx. Other than the ECWMF products I only went on the pro site for the entertaining videos by JB!
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#8719 Postby txagwxman » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:53 am
JOE BASTARDI leaves Accuweather!
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#8720 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:49 am
Joe Bastardi is now the Chief Meteorologist for the Portastorm Weather Center.
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