Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#621 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:29 pm

bob rulz wrote:I believe the same speculation occurred after the Oklahoma City tornado in 1999.

They will never add an EF6 rating for the same reason they will never add a category 6 - the destruction is already so complete from a 5 that it's pointless to add a higher rating.

Very good point. I had forgotten about that discussion. You are probably correct. Following is another note from my friend.

multiple reports are confirming deaths in basements in Birmingham and some missing (hope not swept away). So glad that turned at the last minute to miss the CBD
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#622 Postby bob rulz » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:38 pm

I can't even imagine how much worse this would've been had it hit downtown Birmingham.
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#623 Postby TFGQ » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:49 pm

does anyone think a blanket warning should have been issued just some thoughts
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#624 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:58 pm

Lady on CNN's Wolf Blitzer's The Situation Room:

Rachel, a nurse, survived with her husband in a bathtub on a second level apartment building that was blown almost completely away

Amazing. I heard this on my way to work from running. I will try to get the link.
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#625 Postby Florida1118 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:24 pm

TFGQ wrote:does anyone think a blanket warning should have been issued just some thoughts

What do you mean blanket warning...like a large area? If so that"s what they issue watches for
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#626 Postby TFGQ » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:39 pm

yeah issue a blanket warning which means multiple counties at one time
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#627 Postby Alacane2 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:15 pm

The National Weather Service does issue warnings for multiple counties that are expected to be in the storm within the next 30 minutes to an hour. Example:

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL
400 PM CDT WED APR 27 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN FAYETTE COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ALABAMA...
NORTHEASTERN PICKENS COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ALABAMA...
NORTHWESTERN TUSCALOOSA COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL ALABAMA...
WALKER COUNTY IN CENTRAL ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 500 PM CDT
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#628 Postby TFGQ » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:22 pm

ok i was not sure if u guys knew what i was talking about
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#629 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:14 pm

I now wish I was not on vacation when this happened and I was able to track and follow its every move...
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#630 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:16 pm

So what should they rate it, EF5, EF6 or (no rating, off the charts)?

I still can't believe this. Second deadliest natural disaster in the US since 1975.
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#631 Postby HurricaneBill » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:45 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:So what should they rate it, EF5, EF6 or (no rating, off the charts)?

I still can't believe this. Second deadliest natural disaster in the US since 1975.


I'd imagine they'd rate it a high-end EF5.
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#632 Postby CajunMama » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:13 pm

Do we have any Ms, AL, GA, TN, VA, NC (and any other states I may be forgetting) that we haven't heard from in the past year that may have been in the path of the deadly tornadoes? We have a severe weather check-in list but there are only 4 members that sent me info and they are from the gulf coast.
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#633 Postby PTPatrick » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:58 pm

Actually it was 2nd deadliest tornado outbreak since 1975....Katrina killed over 1000...
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#634 Postby Brent » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:49 pm

severestudios: NWS Huntsville has prelim. determined 3 EF-4's in their area of coverage alone so far...

Does not include anything in Birmingham's area...
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#635 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:58 pm

I've been depressed most of the day after yesterday's horrific devestation and loss of life.

The last story I read said the AP reports a confirmed death toll of 210 people in Alabama alone and 297 overall for this outbreak.

I shudder to think what the final death toll may be once they comb through all of the wreckage.

This whole event is just surreal.

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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#636 Postby Brent » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:48 am

10 deadliest tornadoes in Alabama since 1950.

1. Apr 27, 2011 Tusaloosa to Birmingham Tornado 50
2. Apr 27, 2011 Dekalb County 36

3. Apr 8, 1998 Oak Grove 32
4. Apr 15, 1956 Jefferson County 25
5. Apr 3, 1974 Marion County 23
6. Mar 27, 1994 Goshen Tornado 22
6. Apr 4, 1977 Smithfield Tornado 22
7. Nov 15, 1989 Huntsville Tornado 21
8. Apr 27, 2011 Franklin County 18
9. Apr 3, 1974 Lawrence County 14
9. Apr 27, 2011 Cordova Tornado 14
10. Apr 27, 2011 St. Clair County Tornado 13


Just... wow.
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#637 Postby Calasanjy » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:40 am

This may be conjecture, but it seems to me that when one aspect of atmospheric instability decreases, another increases to compensate. The reduction of tropical cyclone activity during the 2010 Western Pacific typhoon season (near record low) and the record low number of Southwest Indian Ocean tropical cyclones during the 2010/11 summer season was quite striking, and potentially US tornado activity and Atlantic hurricane activity have recently been more intense to enable the atmosphere to release built-up energy.

The death toll solely from the single Tuscaloosa/Birmingham bestial tornado may exceed 50. Evidently, the last single tornado to kill over 50 was the 1955 Udall, KS tornado. The Flint, MI tornado of 1953 killed 115. I wonder how many have died from this particular tornado alone?

In addition, seven preliminarily-EF4 tornadoes have now been confirmed throughout Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia from Wednesday's outbreak. It appears that this outbreak will be characterized by a high incidence of violent tornadoes, although in all likelihood (lest I speak to soon) will not threaten 4/3/74's record number for violents. With the latest updates, I wouldn't be surprised to see 2 or 3 (including the Tusca/Birmi beast) of these tornadoes rated EF5. Preliminary surveys have indicated that Wednesday's tornado in Tanner, AL (which was struck by an F5 on 4/3/74) caused upper level EF4 to near-EF5 damage :eek:
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#638 Postby HurricaneBill » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:36 am

Calasanjy wrote:The death toll solely from the single Tuscaloosa/Birmingham bestial tornado may exceed 50. Evidently, the last single tornado to kill over 50 was the 1955 Udall, KS tornado.


Actually, the last tornado to kill 50+ was during the Mississippi Delta Outbreak in February 1971. A long-tracked F4 killed 58 people. Also, a long-tracked F5 struck Jackson, MS in 1966 and killed 58.
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Re: Historic Multi Day Tornado/Flooding Event 4/23-28/2011

#639 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:58 am

Thought you all might be interested in this shot from NASA,

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#640 Postby RL3AO » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:46 am

Any word on if this passed the Tri-State tornado in terms of length?
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