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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Drought-need rain!!

#121 Postby vbhoutex » Tue May 10, 2011 11:19 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Looks like some much needed rain is possible through midday Saturday according to the GFS. Let's all cross our fingers!
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I'm crossing everything I have available and recruiting on the streets too!!! :cheesy: And Jagno, I will aim some right at your house if we get any!!
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Drought-need rain!!

#122 Postby srainhoutx » Wed May 11, 2011 8:51 am

E-mail from Jeff:

After months of little to no rainfall across the region, Thursday will provide the next chance of hope for decent widespread soaking rains we desperately need.

Large upper level trough over the western US is slowly shifting eastward this morning with disturbances rotating through the SW flow aloft on the SE side of the main trough. Current disturbance is crossing the Rio Grande and is producing showers/thunderstorms from west of Corpus to south of San Antonio….a very good sign of things to come. This current disturbance will rotate ENE across central Texas this afternoon and given strong heating along the dry line, expect numerous strong to severe thunderstorms to develop along I-35 and show ENE toward SE TX. Strong capping still over the region will likely preclude much of this activity from reaching out area (maybe our western and northern counties will get a glancing blow).

Main event appears to be taking shape for Thursday into early Friday as main trough lifts into the plains and a strong short wave rotates through southern TX. Appears the stubborn cap of late will finally weaken to the point that surface parcels will be able to breach that mid level warm layer. In fact, for the first time in a long time the mid levels actually cool some mainly due to the track (more southerly) of the upper air disturbance. 250mb upper air winds also become increasingly divergent during the day on Thursday yielding increasing lift across the region. Surface dry line will remain stalled roughly along I-35 with moist SE winds feeding into this feature adding surface lift. Air mass will become unstable to very unstable by early to mid afternoon Thursday with CAPE values of 2500-3500 J/kg across the region. From the standpoint of the models and the thermodynamic indications everything looks go for thunderstorms and wetting rains…but that is model world not real world!

While all the above is looking good for decent rain chances across the entire area, we are suffering through one of the most severe droughts on record and the models may be trying to trend toward climatology more so than what is really happening over this region. While the track of the short wave does look favorable to produce rainfall, there is still questions as to how fast and how much the capping weakens over the area. Forecast models have been overdoing the weakening of the cap for the past several events which has left us high and dry.

It looks likely that some of us will indeed see rainfall on Thursday and Thursday night, but is it a widespread event or more scattered to isolated. Models have been trending wetter each day with this system unlike the past systems which they have trended drier as the verification time drew closer. Feel it is best to only go 30-40% across the entire area for Thursday which is lower than both the NAM and GFS guidance of 50-60% for this time period, rain chances may need to be raised significantly early Thursday after a review of what happens today in central TX and what kind of capping we look to have in place early tomorrow.

Rainfall Amounts:
Will follow the 4KM WRF model the closet showing a batch of thunderstorms forming WSW of Victoria late Thursday and pushing ENE all the way to near Beaumont by Friday morning…this brings wetting rains to a good part of the area. GFS shows 1.05 inches for KIAH during this period and HPC has been bouncing around with averages of .25-.75 of an inch. Given the deepening moisture profile and increasingly moist mid and upper levels (another recent change) any convection that develops will produce heavy rainfall. Will go with an average of .50 of an inch across the entire region with isolated amounts of 2-3 inches under the heavier cells.

Severe Threat:
Air mass will be primed for strong to severe thunderstorms. 4KM WRF is showing a fast moving almost bowing type display moving across the region Thursday night. Inflow off the Gulf of Mexico and increasing low level jet after dark Thursday will promote a damaging wind threat especially the later in the evening storms go. Initial storms will likely be more isolated and contain a greater damaging hail threat (this threat will likely be across our western counties or from College Station to Matagorda Bay) with the wind threat increasing east of that line after dark. SPC has the entire area outlooked for a slight chance of severe storms.

All in all it is probably our best shot at widespread rains in a long time…but will it actually happen…we shall know in the next 36 hours!

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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Drought-need rain!!

#123 Postby vbhoutex » Wed May 11, 2011 8:56 pm

Now that I am back from the ER for heart failure-LOL!!! IT RAINED!!!! :eek: :eek: Unfortunately it is only 0.05" so far, but it is a start. I still have everything crossed!! Jeff sent out another email this afternoon-
Will need to have some changes for this afternoon and evening…main changes is to up the rain chances to 40% around Matagorda Bay up to College Station. Some locations have already had more rainfall this morning than in the past 3 months!

Widespread light rainfall with now a few thunderstorms around Victoria is moving across the region as an upper level disturbance and increasing moisture combine. Feel the best chances will remain out west and southwest around Matagorda Bay.

At the same time a massive thunderstorm complex has formed over NC TX extending southward to NW of Austin and is moving eastward. Widespread excessive rainfall is occurring under this complex and has even required a few flash flood warnings. May see this complex in some form reach into our northwest counties by late afternoon/early evening. Downstream air mass over SE TX is fairly unstable and marginally capped however strong inflow off the Gulf coupled with potential SE moving outflow boundary could support additional development.

Air mass has really moistened and is capable of some fairly high rainfall totals. Will need to keep a close eye on any west/east boundaries that may develop overnight/Thursday perpendicular to the strong inflow off the Gulf as they could produce training excessive rainfall.

Feel rainfall coverage and amounts for Thursday will need to be increased given the large amount of activity ongoing to our west and southwest today. Appears the shot at widespread wetting rains may indeed occur.
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#124 Postby Tireman4 » Wed May 11, 2011 9:28 pm

It is raining here in Humble....Oh my...
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Drought-need rain!!

#125 Postby Jagno » Wed May 11, 2011 10:55 pm

I'm preparing for rain so it better come.
(1) Did NOT water the garden or orchard.
(2) Mowed the lawn
(3) This is the deal breaker but I will wash my car in the morning.

Seriously, I'm so happy for all of my Texas neighbors who were blessed with a little liquid sunshine today. Be safe because you know that people tend to lose their minds and forget how to drive in the rain.
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Drought-need rain!!

#126 Postby vbhoutex » Thu May 12, 2011 9:21 am

Latest from Jeff:
Chance for severe weather this afternoon and evening across the entire region.

Good shot at much needed rainfall.

Disturbance yesterday produced a taste of what is about to unfold in the next 12 hours across the region with many places seeing more rainfall yesterday than in the past 2 months. Next upper air disturbance is currently crossing the Rio Grande and already numerous severe thunderstorms are ongoing west of San Antonio and north of Del Rio…our activity for late today.

Local meso high pressure cell is in place this morning from short wave passage yesterday and overnight. This high will weaken and shift eastward today allowing he air mass over SE TX and the coastal bend to become very unstable. At last mid level capping has weakened due to southerly track of the approaching shot wave making the atmosphere more favorable for surface based thunderstorms. ENE moving NE Mexico disturbance will cross the region during maximum heating this afternoon favoring severe thunderstorms. Forecasted high temperatures in the upper 80’s will yield tremendous low level instability on the order of 3000-4000 J/kg while mid levels cool allowing steep lapse rates (the rate of rise of surface based air parcels) the steeper the rate the faster the surface air will rise vertically. Good inflow from the Gulf of Mexico is noted which will pump mid 70 degree dewpoint air mass into the disturbance and keep moisture profiles favorable. It all points to a good shot at rainfall.

Severe:

Cannot deny the parameters are in place for severe weather mainly wind damage and hail. 4KM WRF model continues to show the current cluster of storms growing upscale into a forward propagating MCS/large scale bow echo as it plows ESE into the mean low level flow over the region. This meso model has been showing this for the past several runs and the setup is similar to the event yesterday afternoon over N TX which resulted in a large scale bow echo and widespread wind damage. Will hit the wind threat the hardest as that is tending toward where the models are showing with their forecasted convective evolution patterns. Expect the current activity to grow upscale into a linear MCS over the next 2-4 hours and then begin to bow forward between Corpus Christi and San Antonio. Damaging wind threat will greatly increase as the leading edge begins to bow out toward the east and meso low (comma head) forms on the northern end of the complex. Cold pool generation will race eastward with the complex acting as a mini cold front and helping to sustain/maximize lift. Line/bow should reach our western counties by early to mid afternoon and sweep across the entire region from mid afternoon to mid evening. Main threat will be damaging winds of 50-70mph. Dry and brittle trees limbs will likely suffer damage even from non severe winds.

Rainfall:

Best shot at rainfall the entire area has seen and the feeling is pretty high that everyone will see at least some rainfall. Best chances will be west of I-45 where Gulf of Mexico ridge is the weakest. Will go with widespread .5-1.0 inch west of I-45 with isolated amounts up to 2.0 inches. If a fast moving bow echo develops these totals may be a touch high as the forward speed of the activity will greatly limit the duration of the event. East of I-45 totals will likely average about .5 of an inch lower.

Note: Convection yesterday W of Waco, TX was able to produce 8-10 inches of rainfall (flash flooding). There is some possibility that the main punch of the complex/bow echo may leave behind a stalling outflow boundary along US 59 or near the coast this evening. Should this happen very close attention will have to be paid to potential cell training or cell redevelopment overnight as a low level jet tries to re-establish across the region ahead of the main cold front Friday morning. Slow moving convection on any trailing outflow boundaries will be prodigious rainfall producers and could produce rapid flash flooding even with the excessively dry grounds.

Extended:

Cold front will move across the region Friday morning, but main activity and moisture should be shunted eastward with the disturbance overnight. Much drier and cooler air mass will filter into the region making for a sunny and cool (for May) weekend and early next week. Highs near 80 and lows in the upper 50’s will be a treat for this time of year.

Drought:

Yesterday marked the 58th day without rainfall at Hobby Airport…the streak should end today.


Current radar supports what Jeff is saying. There is a large MCS heading East out of W TX and it is currently giving some areas in the exceptional drought category some much needed rain. Unfortunately there are severe T'storms within that MCS that may be causing damage in some areas. Everyone keep a watch for the arrival of this complex this afternoon and be safe.
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#127 Postby angelwing » Thu May 12, 2011 9:27 am

I got a notice on my facebook page from Skywarn about a possible tornado going thru Corrizo Springs in TX....possibly Winter Haven also
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#128 Postby vbhoutex » Thu May 12, 2011 9:35 am

And we have a Severe T'storm Watch for SE TX:
SPC has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Watch for all of SE TX, the coastal bend, and central Texas until 300pm.

Discussion:

Air mass is becoming very unstable already with little heating and large severe thunderstorms have developed west of College Station and around Austin. Large bowing MCS is approaching from the west from west of Waco to ESE of Del Rio moving ESE at 40kts. Middle section of the MCS has begun to bow ESE into the mean low level flow and expect a damaging bow echo to develop within the next 2-3 hours south of San Antonio and race ESE to SE toward the coastal bend.

Additional cells are developing out ahead of this main line as mentioned above in this warm and unstable air mass over the region. Cells have shown very slow forward motions and are producing excessive rainfall. Main threat from these cells will be large hail and isolated flash flooding as very heavy rain falls on dry hard ground. In fact areas in the exceptional drought have already netted upwards of 2-3 inches of rainfall in the last few hours…almost ½ of what they have had since October. Portions of Polk County received up to 5.0 inches overnight.

Given ongoing meso scale trends, expect bow echo to affected the Matagorda Bay region by early to mid afternoon and then push offshore. North of the main bowing segment a line of storms or possibly a secondary bow echo may develop and impact the rest of SE TX in the 200-500pm time frame. Wind damage threat will be greatly increasing over the next 2-3 hours as bow echo takes shape and drives toward the coast. Widespread winds of 55-70mph will be possible along the leading edge of this line producing wind damage.

Severe Thunderstorm Watch boxes in effect until 300pm.

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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#129 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu May 12, 2011 10:59 am

So happy for you Texas folks that really need the rain more so than we do! Looks like we could get a good soaking too, Lake Charles NWS even somewhat concerned over flash flooding potential!

SPC CONTINUES TO OUTLINE THE AREA IN A SLIGHT RISK FOR SEVERE
THUNDERSTORMS...THE WESTERN HALF FOR TODAY AND TONIGHT AND THE
ENTIRE AREA ON FRIDAY. BASED ON PROGGED PARAMETERS...THE TORNADO
THREAT IS LOW...WITH HAIL/DAMAGING WINDS THE PRIMARY SEVERE
WEATHER THREATS. GIVEN THE HIGH PWAT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL WILL
ALSO BE A CONCERN WITH TSTMS . IN FACT...GIVEN THE PROGGED
SYNOPTIC SETUP AND QPF PROGS THAT CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY CREEP
UP...I AM BECOMING A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT A WIDESPREAD
HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT. IN DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES...A FFA WOULD BE
CONSIDERED...BUT NOT AT THIS TIME GIVEN THE AMBIENT DROUGHT AND
HIGH FFG VALUES.
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#130 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu May 12, 2011 11:34 am

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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#131 Postby Tireman4 » Thu May 12, 2011 11:38 am

Holy Mackarel........
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#132 Postby jasons2k » Thu May 12, 2011 4:54 pm

Somehow I only have .37" so far....
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#133 Postby vbhoutex » Thu May 12, 2011 5:25 pm

jasons wrote:Somehow I only have .37" so far....

So far I have gotten 0.32". Still dripping a little. I can't call it rain any more. I guess some is better than none.
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#134 Postby Yankeegirl » Thu May 12, 2011 5:46 pm

Crazy windy here all of a sudden.... weird...
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#135 Postby jasons2k » Thu May 12, 2011 8:02 pm

.39" was the total here. Maybe the front will hold back some tomorrow and give us one more shot before it clears us.
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#136 Postby Jagno » Fri May 13, 2011 12:33 am

0.01 here in Calcasieu Parish so far. I think I'd best go water my garden in the a.m.. :(
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#137 Postby southerngale » Fri May 13, 2011 1:55 am

PTrackerLA wrote:So happy for you Texas folks that really need the rain more so than we do! Looks like we could get a good soaking too, Lake Charles NWS even somewhat concerned over flash flooding potential!

SPC CONTINUES TO OUTLINE THE AREA IN A SLIGHT RISK FOR SEVERE
THUNDERSTORMS...THE WESTERN HALF FOR TODAY AND TONIGHT AND THE
ENTIRE AREA ON FRIDAY. BASED ON PROGGED PARAMETERS...THE TORNADO
THREAT IS LOW...WITH HAIL/DAMAGING WINDS THE PRIMARY SEVERE
WEATHER THREATS. GIVEN THE HIGH PWAT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL WILL
ALSO BE A CONCERN WITH TSTMS . IN FACT...GIVEN THE PROGGED
SYNOPTIC SETUP AND QPF PROGS THAT CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY CREEP
UP...I AM BECOMING A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT A WIDESPREAD
HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT. IN DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES...A FFA WOULD BE
CONSIDERED...
BUT NOT AT THIS TIME GIVEN THE AMBIENT DROUGHT AND
HIGH FFG VALUES.


I wish they had been right! Only .31" here, if my personal rain gauge is accurate. It seemed like more, but I guess that's because it was such a strange sight! We sure need more.
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Re: 2011 SE TX/SW LA Weather:Rain and possible severe this after

#138 Postby angelwing » Fri May 13, 2011 6:07 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYCHBI66izs&feature=player_embedded#at=63[/youtube]

This was last night according to the info on the page
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#139 Postby southerngale » Fri May 13, 2011 7:58 am

angelwing, It was actually Tuesday night. My mom sent it to me yesterday morning. Very cool video!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localdallas/20110511/ts_yblog_localdallas/amazing-video-shows-transformers-exploding-in-fort-worth
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#140 Postby angelwing » Fri May 13, 2011 10:25 am

southerngale wrote:angelwing, It was actually Tuesday night. My mom sent it to me yesterday morning. Very cool video!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localdallas/20110511/ts_yblog_localdallas/amazing-video-shows-transformers-exploding-in-fort-worth


Thank you for the correction!
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